14 Jun
2009
14 Jun
'09
8:25 p.m.
I received the 600e cdrom drive and a MacOS 8 cdrom. I removed the
other scsi tower I had been using and installed the 600e in its place.
The 600e seems to power on and the tray opens and closes. The light
flickers from green to yellow as it first spins up the disk. I'm
using the same cable and terminator as I did with the tower.
One of two things happens, either the quadra 700 ignores the cdrom and
gets stuck at the happy face like the drive isn't there at all. Or
sometimes, I get the Frowny face with the four tones. The error
numbers are 0000000F and 00000001.
Any ideas what's happening?
brian
14 Jun
14 Jun
8:35 p.m.
I received the 600e cdrom drive and a MacOS 8 cdrom.
I removed the
other scsi tower I had been using and installed the 600e in its place.
The 600e seems to power on and the tray opens and closes. The light
flickers from green to yellow as it first spins up the disk. I'm
using the same cable and terminator as I did with the tower.
One of two things happens, either the quadra 700 ignores the cdrom and
gets stuck at the happy face like the drive isn't there at all. Or
sometimes, I get the Frowny face with the four tones. The error
numbers are 0000000F and 00000001.
F 1 is a bus error. I'd start looking at RAM now. You might have a bad stick.
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8:53 p.m.
F 1 is a bus
error. I'd start looking at RAM now. You might have a bad
stick.
It only happens when the cd-rom drive is attached though.
9:19 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Cameron Kaiser<spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
Ugh. Are you sure the CD is good? Things that also
occur to me is a problem
with the controller.
I got it from ebay. It's not perfect, but I don't see why it shouldn't work.
What should be happening here? Should the machine detect and just
boot off the cd-rom? Or do I have to do anything different than just
turn it on?
9:24 p.m.
Ugh. Are you
sure the CD is good? Things that also occur to me is a problem
with the controller.
I got it from ebay. It's not perfect, but I don't see why it shouldn't
work.
What should be happening here? Should the machine detect and just
boot off the cd-rom? Or do I have to do anything different than just
turn it on? 
9:28 p.m.
You can get that is the RAM is mixed up by mistake (3 4MB and 1 1MB). Also
if the socket clips are broken and the ram is not inserted correctly.
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It should 'just boot' into the Installer. The Happy Mac you briefly get
indicates that the Mac can see the disc, and the System Folder on it, so
the CD-ROM is undoubtedly working. I'm still thinking about RAM being a
problem, mind you, but your unit may just be plain broken if it's throwing
bus errors.
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Ugh. Are you sure the CD is good? Things that also
occur to me is a
problem
with the controller.
I got it from ebay. It's not perfect, but I don't see why it shouldn't
work.
What should be happening here? Should the machine detect and just
boot off the cd-rom? Or do I have to do anything different than just
turn it on?
9:36 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Cameron Kaiser<spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
It should 'just boot' into the Installer. The
Happy Mac you briefly get
indicates that the Mac can see the disc, and the System Folder on it, so
the CD-ROM is undoubtedly working. I'm still thinking about RAM being a
problem, mind you, but your unit may just be plain broken if it's throwing
bus errors.
After playing with it a bit more, I'm thinking the cd-rom is bad. I
can see a slight aberration or discoloration on the disk. It's really
slight though so I could be wrong. When I get the happy face, I think
it's really deciding that the cd-rom is bad and trying to boot to the
hard drive instead. It's the same behavior as just turning the
machine on with the cd-rom drive off. I noticed that when I get the
frowny face, right before, the cdrom looks like it's starting to read.
Then it dies. So I think maybe the disk is bad. 70% of the time, it
refuses to read, and the other 30%, it starts to read and fails.
9:46 p.m.
It should
'just boot' into the Installer. The Happy Mac you briefly get
indicates that the Mac can see the disc, and the System Folder on it, so
the CD-ROM is undoubtedly working. I'm still thinking about RAM being a
problem, mind you, but your unit may just be plain broken if it's throwing
bus errors.
After playing with it a bit more, I'm thinking the cd-rom is bad. I
can see a slight aberration or discoloration on the disk. It's really
slight though so I could be wrong. When I get the happy face, I think
it's really deciding that the cd-rom is bad and trying to boot to the
hard drive instead. It's the same behavior as just turning the
machine on with the cd-rom drive off. I noticed that when I get the
frowny face, right before, the cdrom looks like it's starting to read.
Then it dies. So I think maybe the disk is bad. 70% of the time, it
refuses to read, and the other 30%, it starts to read and fails.
10:53 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Cameron Kaiser<spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
There are PC tools that can read an HFS volume (I
don't have a PC, so I
can't make a recommendation, but they are out there). That might be worth
checking into to verify if a sane System Folder is present.
I'll try that.
Also, I'm assuming the SCSI ID on the CD-ROM is
something sane.
I tried 2, 3, and 5. It has the normal push-button id selector.
brian
10:21 p.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
It should 'just boot' into the Installer. The Happy Mac you briefly get
indicates that the Mac can see the disc, and the System Folder on it, so
the CD-ROM is undoubtedly working. I'm still thinking about RAM being a
problem, mind you, but your unit may just be plain broken if it's throwing
bus errors.
Or the terminator is bad, or if it's external, he's using an Iomega
25->50-pin "SCSI" cable....
Doc
Ugh. Are you sure the CD is good? Things that also
occur to me is a problem
with the controller.
I got it from ebay. It's not perfect, but I don't
see why it shouldn't work.
What should be happening here? Should the machine detect and just
boot off the cd-rom? Or do I have to do anything different than just
turn it on?
10:55 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Doc<doc at vaxen.net> wrote:
? Or the terminator is bad,
I think I have another one. When the machine was working, it seemed
to correctly scan the scsi bus.
or if it's external, he's using an Iomega
25->50-pin "SCSI" cable....
It's a generic db-25 to centronics scsi cable.
brian
8:43 p.m.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Brian Lanning<brianlanning at gmail.com> wrote:
I received the 600e cdrom drive and a MacOS 8 cdrom.
?I removed the
other scsi tower I had been using and installed the 600e in its place.
?The 600e seems to power on and the tray opens and closes. ?The light
flickers from green to yellow as it first spins up the disk. ?I'm
using the same cable and terminator as I did with the tower.
One of two things happens, either the quadra 700 ignores the cdrom and
gets stuck at the happy face like the drive isn't there at all. ?Or
sometimes, I get the Frowny face with the four tones. ?The error
numbers are 0000000F and 00000001.
Any ideas what's happening?
Here's the memory info by the way:
4 30 pin simms, 8 chip.
Siemens HYB514100AJ-80
So the 4100 makes me think they're 4 meg simms. That would make 16
plus whatever is on the motherboard, right?
brian
8:49 p.m.
One of two
things happens, either the quadra 700 ignores the cdrom and
gets stuck at the happy face like the drive isn't there at all. _Or
sometimes, I get the Frowny face with the four tones. _The error
numbers are 0000000F and 00000001.
Any ideas what's happening?
Here's the memory info by the way:
4 30 pin simms, 8 chip.
Siemens HYB514100AJ-80
So the 4100 makes me think they're 4 meg simms. That would make 16
plus whatever is on the motherboard, right?
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