On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 09:44:26 -0800 (PDT), Mr. Shoppa mentions: Other boxes: VAX-11/780, VAX-11/750, PDP-12, LINC-8 for starters. I'm positive there are others. Like the pdp11/40 KL-10 front-end... If you produce the lock that the key is for, I believe the smith's objection may be moot. I've got several copies floating around that fit every DEC machine in my collection. They're not hard to come by. I believe the "DO NOT DUPLICATE" is valid only if you can't prove you own the matching lock. Again, take the lock mechanism to a good locksmith; he'll be able to make a new key for it by examining the tumblers. Of course, as in your case the key is broken off in the cylinder, the smith's job will be _much_ easier. ______________________________________________________________________ | | | | Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | West Boylston | | Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | Massachusetts, USA | | mailto:carl.friend@stoneweb.com | | | http://www.ultranet.com/~engelbrt/carl/museum/ | ICBM: N42:21 W71:46 | |________________________________________________|_____________________|