7 Apr
1999
7 Apr
'99
1:03 p.m.
Well, I just bought something at a used bookstore called "SOFTCARD; VOLUME II"
Its a microsoft product, and apparently its illegal to even give it away,
let alone to resell it ;) I'm going to ignore that obviously illegal
wording ;)
Apparenly this is the software and manual for the Microsoft Z80 card
for the Apple II series. I have one floppy disk, never used, in
16-sector format for DOS 3.3 or language card. Apparently there should
be another manual with chapters 1-3 (unfotunately these are the
more interesting chapters), whereas this is chapter 4 on the latest and
greatest microsoft basic ever created, which is apparently on the
floppy disks ;) plus a little information in the final chapter 5.
I dont suppose i can use any of this without the Z80 card? The cp/m wont
work without it i'm guessing. Am I correct in guessing all this is
good for is Ebay or trades?
-Lawrence LeMay
PS: I also picked up a nice copy of "the programmers CP/M handbook" which
provides extensive coverage of CP/M 2.2, mainly assebly listings. It
looks like more than 50% of it is assembly listings. Interesting...
PPS: I really should go back and buy that UCSD P-system book, I suppose.
7 Apr
7 Apr
1:52 p.m.
I think it's pretty common. I've seen quite a few of these around.
I built 2-3 Z-80 cards for Apple IIs using $5-$10 clone circuit boards.
It cost only a few dollars to stuff the cards with parts. You might
still be able to find the bare cards around.
Dave
Lawrence LeMay wrote:
Well, I just bought something at a used bookstore called "SOFTCARD; VOLUME II"
Its a microsoft product, and apparently its illegal to even give it away,
let alone to resell it ;) I'm going to ignore that obviously illegal
wording ;)
Apparenly this is the software and manual for the Microsoft Z80 card
for the Apple II series. I have one floppy disk, never used, in
16-sector format for DOS 3.3 or language card. Apparently there should
be another manual with chapters 1-3 (unfotunately these are the
more interesting chapters), whereas this is chapter 4 on the latest and
greatest microsoft basic ever created, which is apparently on the
floppy disks ;) plus a little information in the final chapter 5.
I dont suppose i can use any of this without the Z80 card? The cp/m wont
work without it i'm guessing. Am I correct in guessing all this is
good for is Ebay or trades?
-Lawrence LeMay
PS: I also picked up a nice copy of "the programmers CP/M handbook" which
provides extensive coverage of CP/M 2.2, mainly assebly listings. It
looks like more than 50% of it is assembly listings. Interesting...
PPS: I really should go back and buy that UCSD P-system book, I suppose.
4:28 p.m.
In regard to this topic, I have an Apple Z80 card that seems to connect to the board
via a wide rubber-covered interface, one end on the card the other to the board. It
has the Z80 cpu plus an AMD 2716IDC Applicard Copy chip too. Dated 1/85. Couple of
questions: (Questions are basic. I'm a writer not a techie, per se.)
1. Where is this card supposed to go? Does it sit outside the case or connect inside
somehow? The front is sloped as if it would sit on the board under the lid plus
there is a small 'leg' on the card with a hole in it as if to screw onto
something.
2. As I also have lots of Apple CP/M disks, what is the routine for booting? From
the drive? Key routine? Holy water?
3. Which slot would the card use? I assume it has memory on it and bypasses
everything on the mboard except the drive but maybe not.
Also, general interest here, I have at least two Apple clones that have both the
Apple cpu on the board and a Z80. Not sure if this is common in the States or not
as there seems to be a lot more clones up here in Canada. One of these clones has
what looks like a set of connectors for another type of floppy plus the regular
Apple floppy driver card.
Brian Mahoney
"David C. Jenner" wrote:
I think it's pretty common. I've seen quite a
few of these around.
I built 2-3 Z-80 cards for Apple IIs using $5-$10 clone circuit boards.
It cost only a few dollars to stuff the cards with parts. You might
still be able to find the bare cards around.
Dave
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9:26 p.m.
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Brian Mahoney wrote:
In regard to this topic, I have an Apple Z80 card that
seems to
connect to the board via a wide rubber-covered interface, one end on
the card the other to the board. It has the Z80 cpu plus an AMD
2716IDC Applicard Copy chip too. Dated 1/85. Couple of questions:
(Questions are basic. I'm a writer not a techie, per se.)
1. Where is this card supposed to go? Does it sit outside the case or
connect inside somehow? The front is sloped as if it would sit on the
board under the lid plus there is a small 'leg' on the card with a
hole in it as if to screw onto something.
I can't quite make out your description but generally you would plug the
CP/M card into slot 0 of a ][+, and I think slot 3 of a //e.
2. As I also have lots of Apple CP/M disks, what is
the routine for
booting? From the drive? Key routine? Holy water?
Just stick it in the drive and reboot. The boot sector on the disk will
automatically activate the CP/M card.
3. Which slot would the card use? I assume it has
memory on it and
bypasses everything on the mboard except the drive but maybe not.
Nope, it uses the same RAM as on the motherboard. Some cards, like the
Premium Microsoft Softcard //e, provided CP/M, 80-columns and an
additional bank of 64K for the Apple //e.
Also, general interest here, I have at least two Apple
clones that
have both the Apple cpu on the board and a Z80. Not sure if this is
common in the States or not as there seems to be a lot more clones up
here in Canada. One of these clones has what looks like a set of
connectors for another type of floppy plus the regular Apple floppy
driver card.
Some clones came like this. Apple clones are something that I wish I was
more serious about collecting as I've passed up a few. They have odd and
interesting variations that make them unique and collectable in my
opinion.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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2:57 p.m.
You obviously didn't realize, or you forgot, that this list has Microsoft
lurkers on it.
You are in DEEP trouble. You have three choices:
1. Hand all materials over to Microsoft, and turn over the owner of the
bookstore to us.
2. Leave the country. Quickly.
3. Mail me $5000 and I'll see if I can smooth things out at this end.
Glad to be of service,
- Joe
5:51 p.m.
You obviously didn't realize, or you forgot, that
this list has Microsoft
lurkers on it.
You are in DEEP trouble. You have three choices:
Funny. A couple months ago I was setting at my computer trying to help out
a guy in the midst of the midwest, ie I am making an illegal copy of some
software. Right in the middle, like as I am swapping the floppies in my
drive, I get a call from Microsoft antipiracy advising me of recent
prosecutions of VARs in SoCal. Funny, yep, bundle of yucks.
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