I can still remember screaming at my father (I must have been 13 at time time) "it's CTRL-S to save, and CTRL-L to load. How could they make it simpler for you?" when he was trying to use Applewriter //e, a very nice, full featured, non-WYSIWYG word processor. Good old . formatting commands. At 09:21 11/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: [---------] "Homer, we don't have to have sex." "Yes we do, the cookie told me so." "Deserts aren't always right Homer." "But they're so delicious." Website: retrobbs.org BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323 Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org [---------]