16 Nov
2004
16 Nov
'04
3:34 p.m.
http://www.itbusiness.ca/index.asp?theaction=61&sid=57357
Using IBM APL on the University of New Brunswicks System 370
was what got me "hooked" on interactive computing, and it has
been a favorite of mine ever since.
Dave
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17 Nov
17 Nov
4:56 a.m.
"Iverson passed away on Oct. 19 following a stroke while he was working on his
computer. He was 83. "
He must have been using a Windows PC! He should have stuck with APL.
APL was my first computer language as well. I learned it form Iverson's book A
Programming Language and finally got to try it out on an IBM 1130. I'll go for YEARs
and not use APL and finally getting rid of all my APL books and stuff but I always find
myself coming back to APL.
Joe
At 09:34 PM 11/16/04 -0500, you wrote:
http://www.itbusiness.ca/index.asp?theaction=61&sid=57357
Using IBM APL on the University of New Brunswicks System 370
was what got me "hooked" on interactive computing, and it has
been a favorite of mine ever since.
Dave
--
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dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Vintage computing equipment collector.
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
6:34 a.m.
>>>> "Joe" == Joe R
<rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> writes:
Joe> "Iverson passed away on Oct. 19 following a stroke while he was
Joe> working on his computer. He was 83. " He must have been using a
Joe> Windows PC! He should have stuck with APL.
Joe> APL was my first computer language as well. I learned it form
Joe> Iverson's book A Programming Language and finally got to try it
Joe> out on an IBM 1130. I'll go for YEARs and not use APL and
Joe> finally getting rid of all my APL books and stuff but I always
Joe> find myself coming back to APL.
There's a pretty good APL implementation that runs on Linux and
Solaris, among others, called OpenAPL. It includes a tweaked xterm
that handles the APL characters directly.
(I have an xemacs elisp file for apl-mode to go with that...)
paul
7:08 a.m.
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 6PM there will be an event celebrating the
life and accomplishments of Ken Iverson at the Computer History Museum.
Details at:
http://www.computerhistory.org/events/index.php?id=1099685637
Regards,
Lee Courtney
21 Nov
21 Nov
11:15 a.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
OK, here's a an OT, I can't wait...
I have a seven year old IBM 760XL Laptop somebody
gave me for free with all the trimmings (with 2 different docking bays)
that likes to switch over to the VGA port every time it boots completely
up. The LCD panel is seen for the period right after power-on to the time
the OS starts. I haven't seen LCD control in the BIOS start-up
(powerswitch+F1) or in the Control Panel. I want to tell it to keep the LCD
display on always.
Perhaps someone has worked with this particular model?
Reply to me directly, if you intuit that this is not a true list question.
BTW this is mechanically a pretty interesting machine. You can
lift up the keyboard and change out any of this: Batteries,spares,
Floppy,CD,HD, and memory, all using no tools at all.
Thanks,
John A.
11:31 a.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
John Allain wrote:
OK, here's a an OT, I can't wait...
I have a seven year old IBM 760XL Laptop somebody
gave me for free with all the trimmings (with 2 different docking bays)
that likes to switch over to the VGA port every time it boots completely
up. The LCD panel is seen for the period right after power-on to the time
the OS starts. I haven't seen LCD control in the BIOS start-up
(powerswitch+F1) or in the Control Panel. I want to tell it to keep the LCD
display on always.
Perhaps someone has worked with this particular model?
Reply to me directly, if you intuit that this is not a true list question.
BTW this is mechanically a pretty interesting machine. You can
lift up the keyboard and change out any of this: Batteries,spares,
Floppy,CD,HD, and memory, all using no tools at all.
Thanks,
John A.
What OS are you running on it?
Gordon
1:26 p.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
What OS are you running on it?
I've got the prior owners W98 on it.
It does the same for boot to floppy(dos) or boot to config. Could be
something else like a coincidence where, say, the screen illuminator
dies after a few seconds of use, however the LCD always comes up
at poweron and never later on.
John A.
1:51 p.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
What OS are
you running on it?
I've got the prior owners W98 on it. 
12:20 p.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
OK, here's a an OT, I can't wait...
I have a seven year old IBM 760XL Laptop somebody
gave me for free with all the trimmings (with 2 different docking
bays) that likes to switch over to the VGA port every time it boots
completely up. The LCD panel is seen for the period right after
power-on to the time the OS starts. I haven't seen LCD control in the
BIOS start-up (powerswitch+F1) or in the Control Panel. I want to
tell it to keep the LCD display on always.
There's a key, one of the function keys, I believe, that has a little
icon of a monitor above it. If you hold down the "fn" key in the lower
left of the keyboard and repeatedly press the other key, you will
toggle between LCD only, LCD and external, and external only.
Paul Braun
12:34 p.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004, Paul Braun wrote:
There's a key, one of the function keys, I believe, that has a little
icon of a monitor above it. If you hold down the "fn" key in the lower
left of the keyboard and repeatedly press the other key, you will
toggle between LCD only, LCD and external, and external only.
My newer (dearly departed - snifsnif) Thinkpad A21M was used at home with
a large monitor and at work standalone. With the FN-monitor set to default
to the external, nonetheless if it detected no plug in the DB15, the LCD
came on w/out needing to be manually switched.
Now, on the Dell Latitude, the same occurs, save that the LCD is active
for a short time during the boot process.
This is all under Win2KPro.
Cheers
John
PS: www.acsparts.com has Stuff for older IBM laptops, FYI.
> OK, here's a an OT, I can't wait...
>
> I have a seven year old IBM 760XL Laptop somebody
> gave me for free with all the trimmings (with 2 different docking
1:18 p.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
There's a key, one of the function keys, I
believe, that has a little
icon of a monitor above it. If you hold down the "fn" key in the lower
left of the keyboard and repeatedly press the other key, you will
toggle between LCD only, LCD and external, and external only.
Fn+F7 (&F3)
I've been trying that. So... My free system may indeed be broken.
or a hook is missing in the OS, if that function needs to operate at
that level.
John A.
3:37 p.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
If the screen works during bootup but then stops working once the OS is
loaded, you might check to see if the little switch that detects
whether the screen is closed is stuck. That happened to my Dell laptop
and it would only work with the external monitor. Apparently, the OS
thinks that the laptop is closed and shuts down the LCD.
On Nov 21, 2004, at 7:18 PM, John Allain wrote:
There's a
key, one of the function keys, I believe, that has a little
icon of a monitor above it. If you hold down the "fn" key in the
lower
left of the keyboard and repeatedly press the other key, you will
toggle between LCD only, LCD and external, and external only.
Fn+F7 (&F3)
I've been trying that. So... My free system may indeed be broken.
or a hook is missing in the OS, if that function needs to operate at
that level.
John A.
22 Nov
22 Nov
7:08 a.m.
New subject: Brazenly OT: ThinkPad760XL local/v/remote screen
Fn+F7 is the LCD/Monitor switch, at least on my 760EL (which I happen
to be looking to get rid of*). Also, download the software for your
laptop form IBM. YOu can search for it there by the machine type, which
is on a sticker underneath, probably next to the serial number. This
includes a program to do a lot of the BIOS configuration (and more)
right from within Windows.
I would also try updating the BIOS on it. With all the Tinkpads I've
worked on, many times the BIOS update fixes wierd problems, even if
you're just re-applying the same version.
*My 760EL - internal floppy, external floppy, CD-ROM, 2 batteries (I
think one is dead), 2 hardrives, DockII docking station (with monitor
support stand). Make me an offer... Please!
John Allain wrote:
OK, here's a an OT, I can't wait...
I have a seven year old IBM 760XL Laptop somebody
gave me for free with all the trimmings (with 2 different docking bays)
that likes to switch over to the VGA port every time it boots completely
up. The LCD panel is seen for the period right after power-on to the time
the OS starts. I haven't seen LCD control in the BIOS start-up
(powerswitch+F1) or in the Control Panel. I want to tell it to keep the LCD
display on always.
Perhaps someone has worked with this particular model?
Reply to me directly, if you intuit that this is not a true list question.
BTW this is mechanically a pretty interesting machine. You can
lift up the keyboard and change out any of this: Batteries,spares,
Floppy,CD,HD, and memory, all using no tools at all.
Thanks,
John A.
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17 Nov
17 Nov
12:49 p.m.
At 12:34 PM 11/17/04 -0500, you wrote:
Shucks. I can go in my living room, plug in the keyboard that already has the APL
characters on it and turn on my IBM PC, and put in the APL disk and be using APL in about
2 minutes.
Joe
>>>> "Joe" == Joe R <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> writes:
Joe> "Iverson passed away on Oct. 19 following a stroke while he was
Joe> working on his computer. He was 83. " He must have been using a
Joe> Windows PC! He should have stuck with APL.
Joe> APL was my first computer language as well. I learned it form
Joe> Iverson's book A Programming Language and finally got to try it
Joe> out on an IBM 1130. I'll go for YEARs and not use APL and
Joe> finally getting rid of all my APL books and stuff but I always
Joe> find myself coming back to APL.
There's a pretty good APL implementation that runs on Linux and
Solaris, among others, called OpenAPL. It includes a tweaked xterm
that handles the APL characters directly. 
4 Dec
4 Dec
8:31 a.m.
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:34:37 -0500, Dave Dunfield <dave04a(a)dunfield.com>
wrote:
http://www.itbusiness.ca/index.asp?theaction=61&sid=57357
Using IBM APL on the University of New Brunswicks System 370
was what got me "hooked" on interactive computing, and it has
been a favorite of mine ever since.
Hm - looking over the shoulder of Ken Iverson as he typed in his APL
program convinced me that it would not be the programming language for me.
On the other hand, it was the first time I saw somebody older than myself
developing faster than me. Now that I?m an Old Phart, I am even more
impressed by what he was doing at the time since my coding speed has long
since decreased in proportion to the number of blunders I have learned
from.
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