It's early days for me on NeXTs, so I don't know a whole lot about the development environment yet :-) Looking at the developer docs on channelu I got thinking that since the libraries are already there all I *really* need to start hacking about are the usual cc/ld/gdb tools (I could live without make, ar, nm etc) and the includes for the APIs. In theory I should be able to make all of these myself - I've got lots of versions of the GNU tools source lying around, it should be easy to build 68k versions of the ones I need, and I could cobble the includes together on an "as needed" basis using the developer docs and example code on the net as a starting point. Painful, but - here's the question - possible? Al.