26 Jan
2003
26 Jan
'03
9:24 p.m.
I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma display) with a '386DX20
that I'm playing around with. Does anyone know if there's a drop-in
replacement for the '386DX? I'm pretty constrained space-wise, no room for
an interposer and barely room for a heatsink should one prove necessary.
I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points when I
boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it.
Thanks!
Bob
26 Jan
26 Jan
11:48 p.m.
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just
more geek points when I
boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it.
God, now I'm envious. I've wanted AIX-PS/2 since I knew it existed, but
hadn't heard of Solaris-mca. Is that regular Solaris for i386, or is it a
special version?
Pat
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27 Jan
27 Jan
9:15 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Finnegan" <pat(a)purdueriots.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: '386 chip upgrade?
Take a look around at http://www.ps-2.org/home/site/axis for answers...
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
> I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points when
I
boot AIX-PS/2
and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it.
God, now I'm envious. I've wanted AIX-PS/2 since I knew it existed, but
hadn't heard of Solaris-mca. Is that regular Solaris for i386, or is it a
special version?
Pat
Bob
12:27 a.m.
Bob,
PLCC or PGA?
Rob Borsuk
rborsuk(a)colourfull.com
http://www.colourfull.com
Michigan, USA
On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 09:13 PM, Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma
display) with a
'386DX20
that I'm playing around with. Does anyone know if there's a drop-in
replacement for the '386DX? I'm pretty constrained space-wise, no
room for
an interposer and barely room for a heatsink should one prove
necessary.
I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points
when I
boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it.
Thanks!
Bob
9:16 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borsuk" <rborsuk(a)colourfull.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: '386 chip upgrade?
Bob,
PLCC or PGA?
Errr, good question! I'll have to check here in a few minutes, after the
kids are in bed.
Rob Borsuk
Bob
11 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borsuk" <rborsuk(a)colourfull.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: '386 chip upgrade?
Bob,
PLCC or PGA?
PGA. I was pretty sure it was, but the more I thought about it the less
certain I became... :/ I think I'm going to solder a socket in under the
oscillator too. I'm not sure how much slack there is in the planar, but the
box's already been butchered, so I don't feel like I'm damaging an
irreplacable machine by 3733+3 0v3rc!0ck3r mods. On second look, maybe I
won't. It looks like about a day of disassembly to pull the planar!
Rob Borsuk
Bob
1:54 p.m.
Bob,
Had to ask. I had somewhere a 386 to 486 upgrade around but it's
plcc.
Thought I could help
Rob
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 07:53 PM, Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borsuk" <rborsuk(a)colourfull.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: '386 chip upgrade?
Bob,
PLCC or PGA?
PGA. I was pretty sure it was, but the more I thought about it the
less
certain I became... :/ I think I'm going to solder a socket in under
the
oscillator too. I'm not sure how much slack there is in the planar,
but the
box's already been butchered, so I don't feel like I'm damaging an
irreplacable machine by 3733+3 0v3rc!0ck3r mods. On second look,
maybe I
won't. It looks like about a day of disassembly to pull the planar!
Rob Borsuk
Bob
9:21 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borsuk" <rborsuk(a)colourfull.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: '386 chip upgrade?
Bob,
Had to ask. I had somewhere a 386 to 486 upgrade around but it's
plcc.
Thought I could help
Thnaks for the effort. I'm afraid it's going to have to be a pin-compatable
drop-in-- there simply isn't room for anything else.
Rob
Bob
3:52 a.m.
To my knowledge most of the 486SLC chips work with
386 MCA. I don't have a P70 so I can't say for sure.
IBM 486DLC2
IBM Blue Lightning ?
Kingston 486/SX Now! 25Mhz
Cyrix 486Drx2 (AKA DRUsup2)
TI486SLC
Evergreen?
You might check the comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
archive on google for the P70.
In my archived files I have some info I could send you if
you wish.
Lawrence
On 26 Jan 2003, , Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma
display)
with a '386DX20 that I'm playing around with. Does anyone
know if there's a drop-in replacement for the '386DX? I'm
pretty constrained space-wise, no room for an interposer and
barely room for a heatsink should one prove necessary. I'm
not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek
points when I boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it.
Thanks!
Bob
lgwalker@ mts.net
10:48 a.m.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Lawrence Walker wrote:
To my knowledge most of the 486SLC chips work with
386 MCA. I don't have a P70 so I can't say for sure.
IBM 486DLC2
IBM Blue Lightning ?
These are true 486's and therefore require 486 sockets. To use them in a
386 board, you need a giant proprietary interposer. Fine when you have
plenty of room, like in a Mod 80 tower, but not so good in the P70.
Kingston 486/SX Now! 25Mhz
Not familiar.
Cyrix 486Drx2 (AKA DRUsup2)
Works just fine.
TI486SLC
Evergreen?
I think these might be too big.
Peace... Sridhar
4:14 a.m.
Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma
display) with a '386DX20
that I'm playing around with. Does anyone know if there's a drop-in
replacement for the '386DX? I'm pretty constrained space-wise, no room for
an interposer and barely room for a heatsink should one prove necessary.
I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points when I
boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it.
Thanks!
Bob
TI made a series of high powered 386's. They were supposed to upgrade
your computer to 486 capabilities. They were better than the Cyrix
chips, although, I don't recall why.... cache I think.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
10:45 a.m.
Sure. It's the Cyrix 486DRx^2. A 486 that runs in a 386 socket. You can
find one around if you look hard enough. They are explicitly supported in
the P70, but I don't know if they have a cache enabler that will work
under AIX/2.
Peace... Sridhar
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma
display) with a '386DX20
that I'm playing around with. Does anyone know if there's a drop-in
replacement for the '386DX? I'm pretty constrained space-wise, no room for
an interposer and barely room for a heatsink should one prove necessary.
I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points when I
boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it.
Thanks!
Bob
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