15 Mar
1999
15 Mar
'99
1:31 p.m.
Eric -
At 11:46 PM 3/15/99 -0000, you wrote:
Because it *isn't* based on Mach.
Roger.
Which part of that is hard to understand?
The historical record of this is fairly well documented.
I stand corrected. I guess the early hype I heard about NT was entirely
falacious and a complete figment of my imagination.
There are some "UNIX servers" that can be run
on top of Mach, but
Mach is not UNIX.
I don't think I ever stated ... "Mach is UNIX". I will be more careful in
the future to distinguish that UNIX might be layered on a Mach kernel, then
again, it might not.
IIRC, the NT kernel *has* a built-in distributed lock
manager. If not, it
would be easy to add it. The NT kernel is actually small, simple, and
almost elegant. ...
If it was as trivial as you indicate, then there would be NT clusters as far
as the eye could see. It took Digital several versions of VMS to support
clusters.
Certainly you *can* run applications on your file
server. And on a good OS,
it will work OK. But that doesn't prove that it is the best way to do
things.
It is the only way to do things if that is what you can afford. It appears
that I have been much less fortunate than you in my selection of employers.
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15 Mar
3:15 p.m.
IIRC, the NT
kernel *has* a built-in distributed lock manager. If not, it
would be easy to add it. The NT kernel is actually small, simple, and
almost elegant. ...
If it was as trivial as you indicate, then there would be NT clusters as far
as the eye could see. It took Digital several versions of VMS to support
clusters. 
3:29 p.m.
On 16 Mar 1999, Eric Smith wrote:
stuff that must be gotten right as well, which is why
so few operating systems
have true clustering support. Microsoft keeps promising that they will have
it someday...
Well, Micros~1 assures us that they have a stable server operating
system _today_.
--
Ward Griffiths
"the timid die just like the daring; and if you don't take the plunge then
you'll just take the fall" Michael Longcor
4:45 p.m.
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Ward D. Griffiths III wrote:
On 16 Mar 1999, Eric Smith wrote:
^^^^^^^^
Didn't anyone else realize how clever that was? :)
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stuff that must be gotten right as well, which is
why so few operating systems
have true clustering support. Microsoft keeps promising that they will have
it someday...
Well, Micros~1 assures us that they have a stable server operating 
5:27 p.m.
Sellam Ismail wrote:
Yes, I did... but I had just seen the same joke on alt.folklore.computers,
so I wondered if this was a copy.
Now the _real_ stoke of genius was the reply article (see below).
-- Derek
Article 213068 of alt.folklore.computers:
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Subject: Re: Unix case-sensitivity: how did it originate?
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.10.9903151346270.2517-100000(a)mozell.hib.no>no>, Eivind
<db96ek(a)oliven.hib.no> wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Ward D. Griffiths III wrote:
Well, Micros~1
assures us that they have a stable server operating
^^^^^^^^
Didn't anyone else realize how clever that was? :)
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com And in the official way to spell the name of the
largest sw company on
the planet: Micros~1
:-)
If they end up split into baby Micro~1s, as has been suggested,
they could be Micros~1, Micros~2, Micros~3 and Micros~4.
(Hmm... That's a thought... Does that mean that they will be hard to
tell apart?)
Dave
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7:01 p.m.
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Ward D. Griffiths III wrote:
It was probably clever the first time, it's standard nomenclature at
Slashdot. Don't grant me credit I haven't earned. (Whoever started
it at Slashdot had probably created a directory called "Microsoft"
under a non-M$ OS on a M$ partition, then tried to access it from
DOS or Windoze).
--
Ward Griffiths
"the timid die just like the daring; and if you don't take the plunge then
you'll just take the fall" Michael Longcor
Well, Micros~1 assures us that they have a stable server operating
^^^^^^^^
Didn't anyone else realize how clever that was? :) 
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