25 Jun
2007
25 Jun
'07
9:40 a.m.
Has anyone got any recommendations for PCB CAD software on Linux?
I tried Eagle, which I'd heard a lot about, but found it to be utterly
useless. Practically everything I tried to do resulted in a big pop-up box
saying something to the effect of "This feature is disabled in the Light
version", even things like moving pads on the grid.
Gordon
25 Jun
25 Jun
10:59 a.m.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
Has anyone got any recommendations for PCB CAD
software on Linux?
Xcircuit for schematics:
http://opencircuitdesign.com/xcircuit/
PCB for layout:
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
26 Jun
26 Jun
12:15 a.m.
Mike Loewen wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
Has anyone got any recommendations for PCB CAD
software on Linux?
PCB for layout:
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/
Tried pcb. Run it... Nothing happens until a few dozen clicks
here and there later, then segfaults. On two vastly different boxen.
Works for everyone else...
Maybe I have to wait for the Grand Conjunction and light incense?
==
jd
"You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on."
-- Hepler, Systems Design 182
9:35 a.m.
On Tuesday 26 June 2007 00:15, jd wrote:
Mike Loewen wrote:
When I've had this happen with downloaded software it's usually because I've
tried to download a binary and there was some library incompatibility with my
system. Downloading the source and compiling it against what libraries I had
on hand usually fixed the problem.
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
Tried pcb. Run it... Nothing happens until a few dozen clicks
here and there later, then segfaults. On two vastly different boxen.
Works for everyone else...
Maybe I have to wait for the Grand Conjunction and light incense? Has anyone got any recommendations for PCB CAD
software on Linux?
PCB for layout:
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/ 
27 Jun
27 Jun
4:49 p.m.
Mike Loewen wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
Do these two tools sync the schematic with the PCB and allow
backchanges? I find that feature of Eagle very useful.
Having watched the previous thread on PCB tooling, I saved all the
links, but I currently use Eagle (on Windows and Linux), and I have no
issues moving pads on the board. I have the free version. You can;t
move parts off the limits of the board size (3x4 for the free version,
as I recall), but you can move parts around the board.
I tried the gEDA suite a while back, and I found it significantly harder
to use than Eagle.
I plan to give the other options previously described a try, but it's
hard to beat the install base of Eagle. (I do intend to try the library
converter mentioned in another thread)
Jim
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Has anyone got any recommendations for PCB CAD
software on Linux?
Xcircuit for schematics:
http://opencircuitdesign.com/xcircuit/
PCB for layout:
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/
28 Jun
28 Jun
2:06 p.m.
On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Jim Brain wrote:
Do these two tools sync the schematic with the PCB and allow
backchanges? I find that feature of Eagle very useful.
I know some people are looking at back-annotation between gEDA/
gschem and PCB, but I don't know how much progress has been made there.
Has anyone got any recommendations for PCB CAD
software on Linux?
Xcircuit for schematics:
http://opencircuitdesign.com/xcircuit/
PCB for layout:
http://pcb.sourceforge.net/
I tried the gEDA suite a while back, and I found it
significantly
harder to use than Eagle.
gEDA was pretty rickety a couple of years ago, but it has made
significant strides since then. It is now very usable, IMO...I
rather like it nowadays. The current incarnation of PCB bears no
resemblance to the version that I first used about five years
ago...it is *fantastic* now. I'm not trying to sway you away from
Eagle, but I do want to point out that the development pace of both
the gEDA suite and PCB is very, very fast nowadays.
To bring this at least slightly on-topic, I am midway through
doing a board layout for Chuck Dickman's RX01/02<->parallel port
interface in gschem and PCB. I did one layout for that circuit about
a year ago, but with through-hole parts, and I'm nearing the point of
swearing off through-hole...this board uses surface-mount components.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
2:25 p.m.
On 6/28/07, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
... The current incarnation of PCB bears no
resemblance to the version that I first used about five years
ago...it is *fantastic* now.
Far out... I'll have to take another look at it - two years ago, it
looked promising, but not enough for me to switch.
To bring this at least slightly on-topic, I am
midway through
doing a board layout for Chuck Dickman's RX01/02<->parallel port
interface in gschem and PCB.
Excellent. You beat me to it. I was just looking at that circuit
yesterday to see about cranking one out.
I did one layout for that circuit about
a year ago, but with through-hole parts, and I'm nearing the point of
swearing off through-hole...this board uses surface-mount components.
Hmm... I still have enough through-hole parts to fill several
bathtubs, so I'm not sworn off, and I'm quite handy with manual SMT
work, but for overall cost to me, I'm still fond of through-hole where
possible. Commercial projects, of course, have different financial
parameters, but my own stuff, I frequently get 80% or more of the
parts right off my shelves.
I'll be interested to see how your layout turns out, and, SMT or
through-hole, probably be interested in picking up one or two on a
group buy, presuming blank boards are an available option. I was
going to build at least one adapter on a perfboard, just to play with,
so a prefab PCB would be most welcome.
-ethan
5 p.m.
On Jun 28, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Oh yes, it has come a long way since then.
:-)
... The
current incarnation of PCB bears no
resemblance to the version that I first used about five years
ago...it is *fantastic* now.
Far out... I'll have to take another look at it - two years ago, it
looked promising, but not enough for me to switch. To bring
this at least slightly on-topic, I am midway through
doing a board layout for Chuck Dickman's RX01/02<->parallel port
interface in gschem and PCB.
Excellent. You beat me to it. I was just looking at that circuit
yesterday to see about cranking one out. Hmm... I still have enough through-hole parts to fill
several
bathtubs, so I'm not sworn off, and I'm quite handy with manual SMT
work, but for overall cost to me, I'm still fond of through-hole where
possible. Commercial projects, of course, have different financial
parameters, but my own stuff, I frequently get 80% or more of the
parts right off my shelves.
I have a lot of through-hole chips, but I have far more (tens of
thousands) discrete components in SMT...and a lot of the stuff I'm
designing with in recent years aren't available in through-hole
packages. I find SMT to be much easier and faster than through-hole.
I'll be interested to see how your layout turns
out, and, SMT or
through-hole, probably be interested in picking up one or two on a
group buy, presuming blank boards are an available option. I was
going to build at least one adapter on a perfboard, just to play with,
so a prefab PCB would be most welcome.
Well I won't do anything without Chuck's permission and/or
involvement, but I was toying with the idea of doing a run of
boards. I have enough parts here for a dozen or so, except for the
DB25s. If I do this, I could also make blank boards available.
I've not gotten far enough to discuss it with Chuck yet,
so...Chuck, what do you think? Would you have any problem with my
making a run of boards based on your design, and selling them for a
reasonable price?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
25 Jun
25 Jun
11:33 a.m.
Before switching to the Mac, I used EagleCAD on Linux (I now have the
Mac version). Of course, I'm using the Professional version, so
*everything* works. Although the UI can be a bit cantankerous
(especially when you're trying to create new devices). :-)
Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
Has anyone got any recommendations for PCB CAD
software on Linux?
I tried Eagle, which I'd heard a lot about, but found it to be utterly
useless. Practically everything I tried to do resulted in a big pop-up box
saying something to the effect of "This feature is disabled in the Light
version", even things like moving pads on the grid.
--
TTFN - Guy
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