3 Oct
2004
3 Oct
'04
9:05 a.m.
Hi,
I found your message below while googling around for Plato information.
You probabley already know, but there's an emulated Cyber running PLATO
online now at http://www.cyber1.org
Greetings,
Jan.
From: Claude.W cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Date: Fri Aug 2 14:14:31 2002
Subject: Plato terminal
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Id love to see the old Plato running again.
Does anyone here know anyone that worked or was involved in Plato
closely
and might be able to get some kinda "emulator" project going off the
ground?
Writing up a terminal emulator might not be dramatic but emulating the
cybers that ran plato might be more of a challenge...
This would be totaly wild and while I dont have a lotta time for stuff
like
this...this one would probably get some attention from me...
And if I could find listing of some games I had written, Id go totaly
wild...SPACE ATTACK was one of them.
Seems TELUQ (Tele-Universitee here in Quebec) was very involved in
Plato.
But I have yet to find some people from "back then"....
Claude
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9 Oct
9 Oct
8:36 p.m.
[T]here's an emulated Cyber running PLATO online
now at
http://www.cyber1.org
...which unfortunately is, effectively, restricted to people in or near
California, or who are willing to ignore the user agreement (section 6
of the agreement is totally insane for anyone for whom California would
be inconvenient).
Pity. It'd be nice to have PLATO back again; I have fond memories of
using it in the late '70s. Oh well.
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10 Oct
10 Oct
8:01 p.m.
der Mouse declared on Sunday 10 October 2004 12:36 am:
You know, it seems perfectly reasonable to me for someone who's providing
a FREE SERVICE. If you feel like you may need to take legal action
against someone who is giving you something for free which they're
spending money on, you have issues.
Pat
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[T]here's
an emulated Cyber running PLATO online now at
http://www.cyber1.org
...which unfortunately is, effectively, restricted to people in or
near California, or who are willing to ignore the user agreement
(section 6 of the agreement is totally insane for anyone for whom
California would be inconvenient).
Pity. It'd be nice to have PLATO back again; I have fond memories of
using it in the late '70s. Oh well.
8:32 p.m.
[PLATO on an emulator]
...which unfortunately
is, effectively, restricted to people in or
near California, or who are willing to ignore the user agreement
(section 6 of the agreement is totally insane for anyone for whom
California would be inconvenient). If you feel like you may need to take legal action
against someone
who is giving you something for free which they're spending money on,
you have issues.
That's not the problem. The problem is that they require that I agree
that California is an acceptable venue for _them_ to act against _me_,
too, in case they ever feel like it.
Legal systems have evolved their choice of venue rules over a long time
and with good reason; I'm not willing to agree to casually brush them
aside - especially when it means agreeing to subject myself to the
jurisdiction of perhaps the most lawsuit-trigger-happy country in the
world today, one with few to no defenses against abuse of the system.
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11 Oct
11 Oct
10:38 a.m.
> > [T]here's an emulated Cyber running
PLATO online now at
> > http://www.cyber1.org
Yeah, the user agreement seems fine, in fact it's better
than many. The Calif. civic code section seems trivial and
unimportant, I mean, you're not putting your personal finances
on this thing, right?!
If you're running any legal shrink-wrapped software you've
already agreed to far worse! (I say this as an open software
snob :-)
10:51 a.m.
> > [T]here's an emulated Cyber running
PLATO online now at
> > http://www.cyber1.org
I just wish I could get access to it from behind our firewall. :-(
(things are *really* tight here - SMTP is restricted to a small number
of machines, for example; most protocols are simply blocked outright).
I have fond memories of PLATO from a terminal at Ohio State, c. 1979.
The two apps I remember running most often were a dungeon exploration
game (that I am pretty sure was multi-player and persistent because it
was nearly devoid of both treasures and monsters when I wandered
through), and a chemistry lab simulation where you would "assemble"
the glassware to distill liquids, etc.
I know there was a lot more available, but those were the ones that I
spent enough time with to make an impression.
I also have a dimmer memory of using PLATO briefly when I visited an
older relative at Purdue a year or two earlier, but I didn't get to
play much.
Ah, well... I'll have to fire it up when I get home in a few months.
In the meantime, at least there are some decent 36-bit emulators to
sate my nostalgia for late-70s Big Iron.
-ethan
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