5 Mar
2005
5 Mar
'05
9:35 p.m.
der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote:
The above is a rant. It is only a rant. If this had
been a serious
message, the attitude presented would have been drastically different.
This concludes our test of the Rant Line. We now return you to your
regularly scheduled list.
Well, it IS a serious matter for ME. If Jay is going to make this list
hostile to people who actually run their entire business operations on
Classic computers in the Classic manner (and exercise their right to
use their own servers and not someone else's for sovereignty reasons),
it looks like those of us *TRULY* into Classic computing need to start
our own list (hosted on a Classic list server of course). der Mouse,
can I count you in? I'm sure I can count on Tony... He is certainly
*THE* most intelligent and most worthy person on this list.
MS
5 Mar
5 Mar
10:08 p.m.
At 08:35 PM 3/5/2005, Michael Sokolov wrote:
Well, it IS a serious matter for ME. If Jay is going
to make this list
hostile to people who actually run their entire business operations on
Classic computers in the Classic manner (and exercise their right to
use their own servers and not someone else's for sovereignty reasons),
it looks like those of us *TRULY* into Classic computing need to start
our own list (hosted on a Classic list server of course).
How rude of you to insult the list host. They generally work their
butts off for free. For pay, they get the promise of more butt-working.
You're free to start your own list. No parting insults necessary.
It all makes me wonder if the schism shouldn't be towards replacing
the mailing list with a web forum. That'll show the people who are
stuck reading this list on dial-up at 300 baud on an ASR-33.
On a web, the crud can be edited, threads corralled, useful messages
moved to the FAQ, etc.
- John
6 Mar
6 Mar
8:01 p.m.
On Saturday 05 March 2005 22:08, John Foust wrote:
It all makes me wonder if the schism shouldn't be
towards replacing
the mailing list with a web forum. That'll show the people who are
stuck reading this list on dial-up at 300 baud on an ASR-33.
On a web, the crud can be edited, threads corralled, useful messages
moved to the FAQ, etc.
Ick. My mail reader can do threading, etc just fine if I wanted it to.
I *much* prefer the email format for classiccmp than a PHPbb or similar
interface.
Jay, you're doing a good job, thank you. :)
Pat
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5 Mar
5 Mar
10:19 p.m.
If [...], it looks like those of us *TRULY* into
Classic computing
need to start our own list (hosted on a Classic list server of
course). der Mouse, can I count you in?
No, thank you. I prefer my listadmins polite and well-balanced.
Polite especially towards those doing large amounts of volunteer work.
Well-balanced as in understanding that volunteers can't always do
things exactly the way *you* think they should be done, and not flying
off the handle when they take temporary measures to bring their
work/stress load down from the impossible into the merely insane.
I consider such qualities even important than listhosting on classic
hardware/software (no matter whose definition of "classic").
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6 Mar
6 Mar
2:02 p.m.
der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote:
Actually, I don't run my own mail server, and nor do I intend to. Doing
so on dial-up (so I certainly can't be connected to the outside world all
the time) would seem to be totally stupid.
No, I trust the mail servers at my ISP. And they've been darn good so far
(as I said, perhaps half a dozen unscheduled problems in 10 years). But
they do take them down for maintenance from time to time, there can be
network problems, etc.
I feel that expecting < 30 minutes outage at a time is _totally_
unreasonable for anyone, no matter what machines they run, what backup
machines they have, and so on.
The above is a rant. It is only a rant. If this
had been a serious
message, the attitude presented would have been drastically different.
This concludes our test of the Rant Line. We now return you to your
regularly scheduled list.
Well, it IS a serious matter for ME. If Jay is going to make this list
hostile to people who actually run their entire business operations on
Classic computers in the Classic manner (and exercise their right to
use their own servers and not someone else's for sovereignty reasons), it looks like those of us *TRULY* into Classic
computing need to start
our own list (hosted on a Classic list server of course). der Mouse,
can I count you in? I'm sure I can count on Tony... He is certainly
*THE* most intelligent and most worthy person on this list.
I dispute that!. I've been called an idiot so often that I now believe it.
-tony
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ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk -
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mouse＠Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA -
msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG -
pat＠computer-refuge.org