I think the first real use of MacInTalk I ever saw (beyond Talking Moose, which was the first place I saw it at all, but I considered that a "show off the technology" app) was in the game Captain Magneto (which I never did solve, anyone know how to get the laser gun out of the room on the island?) It might have been an optional installer rather than being part of the main OS installer as a custom item. If you have a 7.5 CD, check some of the optional items on it. I would check my 7.5.5 CD, but I forgot it at home (and didn't bother checking last night like I should have) It should be listed as Text-To-Speech or PlainTalk, or you can download the PlainTalk 1.5 installers from Apple's web site. That includes the Text-To-Speech installer. You want to install MacInTalk 2 (there are 3 versions, 2, 3, and Pro. 2 is the one that will probably work best on a Classic II, but 3 might also work, you can try it. Pro is for 040's or PPCs) You can find a list of the older Apple software at: <http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html> Click the link for System Software Downloads (or just scroll down about 2/3's of the page). Then in that list, scroll to the bottom of it. You will find a little ways up from the bottom of the list is "Macintosh/System/Speech/PlainTalk_1.5", the list is alphabetical. You will want the 5 "English_TTS" disks (unless you want to hear your Mac talk in spanish, in which case get the 3 "Mexican_TTS" disks as well. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>