Was it Aaron Finney who was doing the Pinout collection? I have the pinouts for the Apple ][ bus among other connectors inside the Apple ][ and don't know where to submit it (and sorry for this public posting but I don't know Aaron's e-mail address). Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always being hassled by the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 09/21/98]