28 Mar
2000
28 Mar
'00
7:29 a.m.
--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
Personally, when and if mine ever shows up at CC, then
I'll be paying with
*cash*.
Don't sweat it. NP has already said that only units ordered directly
from them are subject to automatic account activation
on the credit card
that ordered it. Fair or not; legal or not; that is their
policy. Units
ordered through CC are not activated until plugged into the phone system
and turned on. After all, they ship those whenever and they sit around
at CC until they are bought (if they weren't 1000's of units backlogged ;-)
There's no way to regulate that.
The bad news is that NP is explictly shipping to direct customers in
preference to CC customers. Mine is still on backorder through CC and
likely will be for weeks. I'm number 10 out of 100 at my store alone.
There are six stores within driving distance. They have received two
units in two weeks. :-(
The only good news is that units with a 21-Mar-2000 manufacture date appear
to be unmodified. Who knows what the future may bring. For the $106 mine
will cost (with tax), I'll take the risk that I have to remove epoxy or
solder in a header.
-ethan
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28 Mar
28 Mar
12:39 p.m.
Its interesting to note that CC is backlogged with orders for so long when I
have my order in Comp USA and so far as of today there is only two orders
against their next shipment of 42 and one of those is mine. Regardless, I hate
both of those outlets... I'm sure I'll never see it.
Brian.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
--- "Zane H. Healy"
<healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
Personally, when and if mine ever shows up at CC,
then I'll be paying with
*cash*.
Don't sweat it. NP has already said that only units ordered directly
from them are subject to automatic account activation on the credit card
that ordered it. Fair or not; legal or not; that is their policy. Units
ordered through CC are not activated until plugged into the phone system
and turned on. After all, they ship those whenever and they sit around
at CC until they are bought (if they weren't 1000's of units backlogged ;-)
There's no way to regulate that.
The bad news is that NP is explictly shipping to direct customers in
preference to CC customers. Mine is still on backorder through CC and
likely will be for weeks. I'm number 10 out of 100 at my store alone.
There are six stores within driving distance. They have received two
units in two weeks. :-(
The only good news is that units with a 21-Mar-2000 manufacture date appear
to be unmodified. Who knows what the future may bring. For the $106 mine
will cost (with tax), I'll take the risk that I have to remove epoxy or
solder in a header.
-ethan
=====
Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to
vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com
The original webpage address is still going away. The
permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/
See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details.
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1:33 p.m.
Its interesting to note that CC is backlogged with
orders for so long when I
have my order in Comp USA and so far as of today there is only two orders
against their next shipment of 42 and one of those is mine. Regardless, I hate
both of those outlets... I'm sure I'll never see it.
Brian.
They're "selling" them at CompUSA? I thought CC was the only one to carry
the iOpener.
I was just looking at a web board on the iOpener, sounds like CC must have a
truely frightening backlog of these things.
Zane
10:05 p.m.
Yup. I stopped by the other day and confirmed that my order was still in their
system.
Brian.
healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote:
Its
interesting to note that CC is backlogged with orders for so long when I
have my order in Comp USA and so far as of today there is only two orders
against their next shipment of 42 and one of those is mine. Regardless, I hate
both of those outlets... I'm sure I'll never see it.
Brian.
They're "selling" them at CompUSA? I thought CC was the only one to carry
the iOpener.
I was just looking at a web board on the iOpener, sounds like CC must have a
truely frightening backlog of these things.
Zane 
29 Mar
29 Mar
3:24 a.m.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Brian Roth wrote:
Its interesting to note that CC is backlogged with
orders for so long when I
have my order in Comp USA and so far as of today there is only two orders
against their next shipment of 42 and one of those is mine. Regardless, I hate
both of those outlets... I'm sure I'll never see it.
My worry too. I still havent seen mine yet.
Allison
9:59 p.m.
I stopped by again(I don't trust them) to see if they came in. I asked THREE people
on the floor about it and none of them even knew what it was. They actually had to
look it up in the computer to find it. I think the prerequisite to work there is to
know absolutely nothing about technology. Amazing!
allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Brian Roth wrote:
Its interesting to note that CC is backlogged
with orders for so long when I
have my order in Comp USA and so far as of today there is only two orders
against their next shipment of 42 and one of those is mine. Regardless, I hate
both of those outlets... I'm sure I'll never see it.
My worry too. I still havent seen mine yet.
Allison 
11:33 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Roth" <broth(a)heathers.stdio.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: iOpener
I stopped by again(I don't trust them) to see if
they came in. I asked
THREE people
on the floor about it and none of them even knew what
it was. They
actually had to
look it up in the computer to find it. I think the
prerequisite to work
there is to
know absolutely nothing about technology. Amazing!
Sounds like K-mart......
In 1989, before I knew any better, I looked at a Commodore Colt (truly AWFUL
PC/XT semi-incompatible)
with 2 x 5.25" DD drives and no hard disk in the local K-Mart. I asked the
assistant what he could tell me about it. He opened a book, looked, and
with a perfectly straight face told me the price. I waited.... He knew it
was a computer and how much it was. That was it. I didn't buy it.
(Fortunately). A friend enlightened me and I went and bought my first IBM
compatible PC. (I'd had a TI/994a for some time - still have it somewhere) A
Clone 286/12 with 1MB ram and a 40mb HDD and a 256k VGA card/Multisync
monitor. Cost AU$4k cash. (Which was a good price for a VGA system in 89!)
(The monitor was around $900 on it's own IIRC). Still have portions of it
here and there in other machines.
The Colt was still there a year and a half later. Some poor sucker bought
it when it was reduced to clear for about a third of the original price (ie
about twice what it was worth) some time after that. Poor bastard.
They stopped selling computers completely not long after.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
30 Mar
30 Mar
2:45 p.m.
Date sent: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:59:45 -0500
From: Brian Roth <broth(a)heathers.stdio.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
I just stopped at my local (NW Indiana) CC tonight to browse some
900MHz phones and they had a demo unit on display, running a
demo program. Very weird little device, but kinda cool. Didn't think
to ask if they actually had any.....
Did see the 46" Phillips HDTV, though, and I'm wondering which
body parts I need to sell to get one.....of course, I'll still need ears
and eyes to appreciate it once I get it, so they're out of the
question.
Subject: Re: iOpener
Send reply to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
I stopped by again(I don't trust them) to see if
they came in. I asked
THREE people on the floor about it and none of them even knew what it was.
They actually had to look it up in the computer to find it. I think the
prerequisite to work there is to know absolutely nothing about technology.
Amazing!
Paul Braun
NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you.
nerdware(a)laidbak.com
www.laidbak.com/nerdware
7:13 p.m.
New subject: DecConnect office cable Aaack
One of the things my greedy little hands grab up whenever the price allows
it, are the neat little CoStar label printers. As is typical these low
priced found in a box of stuff units are missing power supply (not hard to
replace) and data cable (all apparently vanished into limbo along with all
known pinouts). The nasty little missing cable is a PC serial Din on the
end of a RJ11 phone cable.
Oh happy day said I spying a number of cables that seem to be exactly this,
but my hopes dashed like so much salt over a pagans shoulder, I note these
cables have printed on them DecConnect Office Cable. Woe, oh woe, oh no,
are these some nasty DEC things and not my highly desired CoStar serial
cables?
Glimmer of hope, the nasty din8 on the nasty DEC cable isn't molded on, and
appears to perhaps "open", if so looks like a job I am short one tiny screw
driver to attempt for now (one on each side).
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