I can't really quite imagine what all must be involved in being part owner of a company, then having to pull out, and either hustle to find a job, or start another company... I'd think you'd want a little safety cushion... At any rate, I'd have thought that by now, he'd have been somewhat settled in... but with the downturn, he might well be having trouble. Bear in mind he's providing the hosting as well as being list owner. Anyone wanting a change of status quo needs to consider we could easliy lay this one someone else who might drop it a month later... -dq