Which is why I am not keeping the server - with a trailer full of equipment I don't have the time or funds to dink with RS/6000 equipment. It would make someone a nice unit though with a few parts put back in it. Never messed with an Apple server, I'd be lost on that. -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Cameron Kaiser Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 10:15 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: EBAY - RS/6000 Powerserver 340 ebay While on the subject, someone is also selling an Apple Network Server 500/132. I'd buy it, but something about having enough money for food keeps popping up in my mind for some reason. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1217009619 -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away. ------------------

Does Linux/Unix run on the 7012-340 as well or is it strictly AIX? (more curious than anything) -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Rich Lafferty Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 11:48 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: EBAY - RS/6000 Powerserver 340 On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 10:48:18AM -0600, Russ Blakeman (russ(a)rbcs.8m.com) wrote: equipment make The Apple Network Servers were just rebadged RS6k's -- they even ran AIX, although IIRC only 4.1.4 and 4.1.5 since they were discontinued so quickly, and even then not exactly *stock* AIX. They'll run Linux quite happily, I'm told -- this might sneak under the 10-year rule, but Terrasoft, that makes the Yellow Dog Linux distribution for powerpc, managed to get a whole bunch of ANS700s and is selling them as servers at <http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/>. -Rich -- ------------------------------ Rich Lafferty --------------------------- Sysadmin/Programmer, Instructional and Information Technology Services Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625 ------------------------- rich(a)alcor.concordia.ca ----------------------

They're a little more than simply rebadged RS6ks -- I speak from experience here because stockholm, my master server, is a ANS 500. They only run 4.1.[45], correct, and you must have the Apple CDs (stock IBM installs won't do, and in fact will probably tank OpenFirmware). They run Yellow Dog Linux happily, although you still have to jump through a few silly hardware hoops to get them there. NetBSD/macppc also supports them as of 1.5. Hardware-wise, they're closest to an overgrown 9500. They use a custom CPU board but regular Power Mac FPM DIMMs and cache memory with one exception: they can use the fleetingly rare parity FPM which is expensive as h*ll. The video hardware is also unusual (Cirrus Logic) and they use a Fast and Wide SCSI chipset not on any other contemporary model. For these reasons, they don't run MacOS without coercion -- you can trick it by putting 9500 ROMs in and the 9500's ATI card in PCI slot 1, but only the external SCSI is supported. Bizarrely, when Apple demoed them, they hacked MacOS to run on the hardware. Talk about a mixed message to buyers, who were expecting a Real Live Un*x Server from Apple. The fact it has six PCI slots, six drive bays (even more on the 700) and on the 700 hot-swappable power supplies make it a nicely expandable machine. Too bad the CPU can only be upgraded to a 200MHz 604e PPC. Ironically, the ANSes actually were turning a profit (mostly due to the high margins, they retailed for about $10,000) when Apple killed them off in '97. Mine is a somewhat anaemic ANS, 192MB RAM (max 512), 1MB L2 cache, 200MHz 604e and 18.2GB. I've seen people stick the full 512MB in them and fill all the bays to wind up with some ungodly amount of HD space to boot. Try doing that in a run-of-the-mill 9500. OT finished :-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Adore, v.: To venerate expectantly. -- Ambrose Bierce ----------------------

Tried the shipping "across the big pond" once but the thing took forever and th epaperwork was a big pain in the bum. Canada from the US is bad enough with the paperwork and the reciever's tarrifs but I deal with it for things that are worth it to ship that far. -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Peter Joules Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 1:12 PM To: Classic Computer List Subject: Re: EBAY - RS/6000 Powerserver 340 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Russ Blakeman wrote: ebay If only it was in the UK :( -- Regards Pete