20 Jul
1998
20 Jul
'98
5:37 a.m.
Sorry about the blanks, folks, Lynx doesn't let me delete them.
This one I must agree with. Thank god I had some metric phillips
drivers to turn those Torx screws!!!
You forgot one category: Most difficult to open. The
last LTE I tried
to
open required the skill of a surgeon to dissassemble.
Jeff
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20 Jul
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10:35 p.m.
This one I
must agree with. Thank god I had some metric phillips
drivers to turn those Torx screws!!!
Since when does the use of Torx screws make something difficult to
dismantle? They're a lot better than the crosspoint (Phillips, Pozidriv,
etc) screws, which almost seem to be designed to cause the driver to 'cam
out' when you try to shift them.
You forgot one category: Most difficult to open.
The last LTE I tried
to
>open required the skill of a surgeon to dissassemble. Dismantling is easy, anyway. It's getting it back
together that's
interesting...
-tony
Generally I'd agree, but in the case of the DEC VR201 I was challenged.
It took me some 2 hrs. and I was ready to rip the case off before I finally
figured out that "that interesting little button on the rear" concealed THE
screw that held it all together. I think some fine art students on peyote
must have designed that case. It is unique I will admit.
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
21 Jul
21 Jul
2:53 a.m.
Generally I'd agree, but in the case of the DEC
VR201 I was challenged.
It took me some 2 hrs. and I was ready to rip the case off before I finally
figured out that "that interesting little button on the rear" concealed THE
screw that held it all together. I think some fine art students on peyote
must have designed that case. It is unique I will admit.
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
Why do you think we Field Service types were slightly crazy.
They went from the VT100 case to that!
Bill
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20 Jul
20 Jul
7:02 p.m.
>>
Generally I'd agree, but in the case of the
DEC VR201 I was challenged.
It took me some 2 hrs. and I was ready to rip the case off before I finally
figured out that "that interesting little button on the rear" concealed THE
screw that held it all together. I think some fine art students on peyote
must have designed that case. It is unique I will admit.
Don't forget to extend the 'leg' fully as well.
Similar screw covers are used on the VT220 IIRC.
Ever done an IBM 5151 monitor? It's painful, and the details are not in
any IBM manual (for all there's a schematic given). What you have to do
is prise (pry) the 2 covers off the top and undo the screws under them,
then put it face down, undo the 2 screws near the front, and the 4 screws
in the block of 6 that are nearest the rear of the monitor. The cover
then pulls off. But whatever you do, don't undo all 6 screws. If you do,
the mains transformer (read : heavy weight) falls off onto the back of
the CRT (read : glass thing waiting to implode).
-tony
I ran across that with an IBM terminal that I finally tossed (NOT the 3270
one). I did keep the 15 pin cable tho, thinking I could use it to build a cable
for my Dec Rainbow, if necessary. While puzzling, the two tabs on top, so
neatly set into the case, were somewhat intuitive if you've worked on
electronic equipment before. Case screws hidden in the strangest places. I
like Sony's method of the arrow indicating the case screws , a real
no-brainer.as compared to the VR201.
I just checked my 5151 and 5153. They both have the tabs. I guess that was an
IBM standard for the time.
I'm always carefull when I see an odd number or more than 4 screws on the
back. I've seen that with other devices as well. And then you find you've
unscrewed some @#$%@$^ thing that's virtually impossible to reattach without a
special jig. BTW that 404 had something like 8 1/2" # 8(?) screws holding the
PCB to the K-b case. They don't make things like that anymore !
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
22 Jul
22 Jul
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3:20 p.m.
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
As I mentioned once before, I once carried a VR201, by
its handle, on a
train. Now, in that orientation, it looks a little like a bomb or land
mine, so I stuck a little label on each side with 'Danger Implosives' on
it, in red pen. Got some _very_ odd looks :-).
Haha. That's a ballsy act. I wonder what would happen to you if you
tried that today.
Ok, now grow your beard out a little and try it in Arab head-dress.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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10:21 a.m.
Ever done an IBM 5151 monitor? It's painful, and
the details are not in
any IBM manual (for all there's a schematic given).
The thing I don't like about a lot of IBM stuff is the torx screws with a
pin in the middle to stop as ordinary torx bit fitting. (I have been known
to break the pin out and use a torx bit anyway :) The only other way which
usually works is to wedge a flat screwdriver across a couple of the 'teeth'
with its back against the pin, this seems to give enough purchase to turn
the screw.
Regards
Pete
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