3 Apr
2005
3 Apr
'05
11:57 p.m.
I gave Chris maybe 8 ~ 12 unique models IIRC. Sometime
later he had
a crash of storage space... I have almost no idea how many he kept.
I actually found users for most of them. Many of them were repeats of the
IIci, and LC 1, 2, 3 series. A number didn't work, and were combined into
functioning machines. All the 68040 machines (mostly Performa 63x) that I
didn't keep were given to new homes, as well as most of the LC models.
The IIci's were surprisingly hard to place and in the end most were
stripped for parts and traded off in pieces.
I did keep a few that were the "rarer" models (like the IIvx and MacTV,
as well as one each of the LC versions, IIci, and IIsi... I also kept
some of the 68040's, in fact, I currently run my mail and web servers off
them, the mail servers are running the Mac OS, and the web servers are
Mac68k NetBSD).
I'm no where near having one of every model however. At one point I
wanted to make such a collection, but alas, it will be some time before I
have that kind of storage space available to me again.
Somebody just gave me my first G3. Very good looking
machine.
Even has that prominent DEC chip (21154 PCI) to look at. Can't wait
to load something on it.
Which model? I can check to see if I have the Apple restore CD for it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
4 Apr
4 Apr
12:43 a.m.
Hi Chris,
Which model? I can check to see if I have the Apple
restore CD for it.
Not sure, due to lack of paper info, but the "blue/clear tower".
I hope "format disk" is included on most CD's.
John A.
----- Original Message -----
From: chris <cb at mythtech.net>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
I gave Chris maybe 8 ~ 12 unique models IIRC. Sometime
later he had
a crash of storage space... I have almost no idea how many he kept.
I actually found users for most of them. Many of them were repeats of the
IIci, and LC 1, 2, 3 series. A number didn't work, and were combined into
functioning machines. All the 68040 machines (mostly Performa 63x) that I
didn't keep were given to new homes, as well as most of the LC models.
The IIci's were surprisingly hard to place and in the end most were
stripped for parts and traded off in pieces.
I did keep a few that were the "rarer" models (like the IIvx and MacTV,
as well as one each of the LC versions, IIci, and IIsi... I also kept
some of the 68040's, in fact, I currently run my mail and web servers off
them, the mail servers are running the Mac OS, and the web servers are
Mac68k NetBSD).
I'm no where near having one of every model however. At one point I
wanted to make such a collection, but alas, it will be some time before I
have that kind of storage space available to me again.
Somebody just gave me my first G3. Very good looking
machine.
Even has that prominent DEC chip (21154 PCI) to look at. Can't wait
to load something on it.
Which model? I can check to see if I have the Apple restore CD for it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
8:45 a.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
On Apr 4, 2005 5:43 AM, John Allain <allain at panix.com> wrote:
Hi Chris,
Nice machine. Around 350-400MHz G3, 100MHz FSB, ATI Rage128 graphics.
Runs classic MacOS up to the final 9.2.2 and OS X up to and including
Panther (10.3) and
probably Tiger (10.4). If it has enough RAM - and I think it'll take
standard PC100 SDRAM - it'll happily dual-boot between 9.2.2 and
10.3.8, but it will only really shine under the latter OS, which is
arguably the world's finest GUI desktop OS ever. Any old MacOS 9 CD
will install it, as will any old OS X CD.
--
Liam Proven
Home: http://welcome.to/liamsweb * Blog: http://lproven.livejournal.com
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Which model? I can check to see if I have the
Apple restore CD for it.
Not sure, due to lack of paper info, but the "blue/clear tower".
I hope "format disk" is included on most CD's. 
8:53 a.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
----- Original Message -----
From: "Liam Proven" <lproven at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
On Apr 4, 2005 5:43 AM, John Allain <allain at
panix.com> wrote:
Too bad those didn't have AGP slots for newer video cards.
Hi Chris,
Nice machine. Around 350-400MHz G3, 100MHz FSB, ATI Rage128 graphics.
Runs classic MacOS up to the final 9.2.2 and OS X up to and including
Panther (10.3) and
probably Tiger (10.4). If it has enough RAM - and I think it'll take
standard PC100 SDRAM - it'll happily dual-boot between 9.2.2 and
10.3.8, but it will only really shine under the latter OS, which is
arguably the world's finest GUI desktop OS ever. Any old MacOS 9 CD
will install it, as will any old OS X CD.
--
Liam Proven
Home: http://welcome.to/liamsweb * Blog: http://lproven.livejournal.com
AOL, Yahoo UK: liamproven * ICQ: 73187508 * MSN: lproven at hotmail.com Which model? I can check to see if I have the
Apple restore CD for it.
Not sure, due to lack of paper info, but the "blue/clear tower".
I hope "format disk" is included on most CD's. 
5:35 p.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Liam Proven wrote:
On Apr 4, 2005 5:43 AM, John Allain <allain at
panix.com> wrote:
Be careful! All Macs up to and including the Grey G4 towers (and perhaps
newer) require low-density SDRAM. These can be deceptively difficult to
find unless you keep your eyes open. I can tell you from experience that
newer PC100/PC133 memory will not work reliably, if the machine even boots
at all.
For 256M, at least, the correct modules will have chips on both sides.
Steve
Hi Chris,
Nice machine. Around 350-400MHz G3, 100MHz FSB, ATI Rage128 graphics.
Runs classic MacOS up to the final 9.2.2 and OS X up to and including
Panther (10.3) and
probably Tiger (10.4). If it has enough RAM - and I think it'll take
standard PC100 SDRAM Which model? I can check to see if I have the
Apple restore CD for it.
Not sure, due to lack of paper info, but the "blue/clear tower".
I hope "format disk" is included on most CD's. 
5 Apr
5 Apr
4:25 p.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
Steven N. Hirsch wrote:
Be careful! All Macs up to and including the Grey G4
towers
(and perhaps newer) require low-density SDRAM. These can be
deceptively difficult to find unless you keep your eyes open.
I can tell you from experience that newer PC100/PC133 memory
will not work reliably, if the machine even boots at all.
For 256M, at least, the correct modules will have chips on
both sides.
At the risk of drifting off-topic, I've sold SDRAM to people
who have dropped them into iMacs, eMacs and various PowerMacs.
Apart from an occasional problem with 512MB modules in PowerMacs
they've all been fine (and 256MB and 128MB seem to work
everywhere).
These are PC100, double-sided, ECC SDRAM DIMMs.
I don't think even a modern machine could consider 512MB
to be low-density (although SDRAM has obviously been left
in the information superhighway's gutter :0 ).
I don't claim to know much about Macs (I have a 6100 in the
garage and that's it) but people have paid real money and
not complained, so I assume that they were happy!
Antonio
--
---------------
Antonio Carlini arcarlini at iee.org
6:14 p.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
Apart from an occasional problem with 512MB modules in
PowerMacs they've all been fine (and 256MB and 128MB seem to
work everywhere).
My G3 is full of PC100 and PC133 DIMMS so maybe that's why it's
unhappy....hmm.....
I think I'll try and borrow one of the 266mhz G3s at my watford post
tomorrow just to see how it compares.
cheers
a
7:31 a.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
have that kind of storage space available to me again.
You can download 9.1 now from the Apple site and boot from that to
install the OS. G3s are still great, even with OS X (need lots of
ram), especially since all the IDE stuff will work in them and OS X
integrates well with a windows network. Give me a shout if you need
any help with the G3 (original poster was Chris I think)
BM
Somebody just gave me my first G3. Very good
looking machine.
Even has that prominent DEC chip (21154 PCI) to look at. Can't wait
to load something on it.
Which model? I can check to see if I have the Apple restore CD for it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
9 a.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
On Apr 5, 2005 12:31 PM, Brian Mahoney <mapleleafman at gmail.com> wrote:
have that kind of storage space available to me
again.
You can download 9.1 now from the Apple site and boot from that to
install the OS. G3s are still great, even with OS X (need lots of
ram), especially since all the IDE stuff will work in them and OS X
integrates well with a windows network. Give me a shout if you need
any help with the G3 (original poster was Chris I think)
Oh *no*!
The original thread is still running, about 3 messages down from this
one, but already this *FALSE INFORMATION* is being promulgated around?
You can indeed download 9.1, as you have been able to since the day it
was released, but it is an *PATCH ONLY*. It is NOT a complete bootable
OS in its own right. You need a copy of MacOS 9.0 to upgrade.
Please don't spread the info that 9.x is now free around any further -
it is *not true.*
--
Liam Proven
Home: http://welcome.to/liamsweb * Blog: http://lproven.livejournal.com
AOL, Yahoo UK: liamproven * ICQ: 73187508 * MSN: lproven at hotmail.com
Somebody just gave me my first G3. Very good
looking machine.
Even has that prominent DEC chip (21154 PCI) to look at. Can't wait
to load something on it.
Which model? I can check to see if I have the Apple restore CD for it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
11:20 a.m.
New subject: Collect all Macs? was Re: Mac OS 9.1 now a free download
Ditto that information. The size of the 9.1 download is about 90MB.
IIRC the install directory for MacOS 9 is at least 150MB, and that's
without MacOS 9.1 update, which adds a bunch more stuff. There's no
way that particular download is a full install of MacOS 9.
Oh *no*!
The original thread is still running, about 3 messages down from this
one, but already this *FALSE INFORMATION* is being promulgated around?
You can indeed download 9.1, as you have been able to since the day it
was released, but it is an *PATCH ONLY*. It is NOT a complete bootable
OS in its own right. You need a copy of MacOS 9.0 to upgrade.
Please don't spread the info that 9.x is now free around any further -
it is *not true.*
--
Liam Proven
Home: http://welcome.to/liamsweb * Blog: http://lproven.livejournal.com
AOL, Yahoo UK: liamproven * ICQ: 73187508 * MSN: lproven at hotmail.com
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