13 Feb
2001
13 Feb
'01
4:32 a.m.
I think I'd trade a SOL, an Altair, and an IMSAI for a System/38 or
System/34.. Hell even for an AS/400 with a complete copy of the OS.. Not
that I have any of those 3 machines; If I did, I'm sure Bob could use
another SOL and other list members could use an Altair or an IMSAI.. I
certainly have no real place for them.. Somewhat unrelated to minicomputers.
BTW, Bob, plese e-mail me, I have a SOL-related article for you.
Will J
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11:04 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ford" <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Holy Crap! IMSAI's weren't this expensive when new!
I'd bet their HDs have been wiped. IIRC, the problem with AS/400s,
RS-6000s, and many other IBM minis is that the OS is only leased from IBM,
and it's not transferable. So a company can't legally give you the
installation media, root passwords, etc. And there are no hobbiest licences
available.
I suspect that's why Will specified "with a complete copy of the OS" when
he so rashly offered to trade Altairs, IMSAIs, etc.
Cheers,
Mark.
I think I'd
trade a SOL, an Altair, and an IMSAI for a System/38 or
System/34.. Hell even for an AS/400 with a complete copy of the OS.. Not
Most older AS/400 go for about $75 at the auctions I've been to in SoCal.
12:47 p.m.
I think I'd trade a SOL, an Altair, and an IMSAI
for a System/38 or
System/34.. Hell even for an AS/400 with a complete copy of the OS.. Not
Most older AS/400 go for about $75 at the auctions I've been to in SoCal.
3 p.m.
At 03:47 PM 2/13/01 -0800, you wrote:
I'd bet their HDs have been wiped. IIRC, the problem with AS/400s,
RS-6000s, and many other IBM minis is that the OS is only leased from IBM,
and it's not transferable. So a company can't legally give you the
installation media, root passwords, etc. And there are no hobbiest licences
available.
At a bankruptcy auction anything is possible. Most of the time anything an
employee thinks is valuable has been looted, but the OS out of a AS/400
doesn't fit that picture. I've seen stuff go across the block that is
plainly marked as leased or rented, UPS and FedEx shipping stuff, filing
cabnets still full of recent transactions, refridgerators still with lunch
sacks.
One of my most interesting finds along that line is a pre-production HP
85. It has several labels that clearly state that it is property of HP and
is not for sale. However they loaned it to Martin Marietta and never
bothered to retrieve it. About two years ago MM surplused it and I found it
in the trash pile at a scrap company. Considering that the HP 85s are about
15 years old, HP probably left it with MM for at least 13 years.
Joe
I think I'd
trade a SOL, an Altair, and an IMSAI for a System/38 or
System/34.. Hell even for an AS/400 with a complete copy of the OS.. Not
Most older AS/400 go for about $75 at the auctions I've been to in SoCal.
11:50 a.m.
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I've just installed a nice message forum package at the Retrocomputing
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Thanks for your time.
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