24 Jan
2006
24 Jan
'06
8:23 p.m.
While looking for my cache of PMC MO disks, I stumbled on a box with some
NOS memory modules. I think I got these when I bid on a mixed lot of old
memory modules that had one that I really wanted.
I found 2 2MB and one 8 MB module for what I believe should be a Compaq
LITE4. These are about the same size as a PCMCIA card, but with offset
contact rows (in contrast to a PCMCIA card).
I've also got a 4MB and an 8MB short (about 2" long) 72-contact SIMM. One
is labeled "21xx Memory" if that's any help.
I've also got another small 8MB memory module about 2"x1" with two 30-pin
female headers on each end of one side.
Anyone have a need for these or even know what they are?
Cheers,
Chuck
25 Jan
25 Jan
8:50 a.m.
Hello Chuck,
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:23:29PM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote:
While looking for my cache of PMC MO disks, I stumbled
on a box with some
NOS memory modules. I think I got these when I bid on a mixed lot of old
memory modules that had one that I really wanted.
I have a Compaq Contura 410CX. It's a 486DX2-66 with 12MB in which
current versions of FreeBSD, OpenBSD or NetBSD won't install because
of the little RAM. I've had running FreeBSD, muLinux and Tiny Linux
on it, but I really would like to be able to install a current version
of one of the BSD, which I think it would be possible with a little
more RAM.
I don't know how to access the RAM on this machine. I'll try to look
for a technical description and see which kind of RAM it takes, and
get back to you if it?s one of the kinds you have mentioned.
Anybody else knows anything about this Contura, its RAM or its tech
specs or something which might help?
Thank you!
I found 2 2MB and one 8 MB module for what I believe
should be a Compaq
LITE4. These are about the same size as a PCMCIA card, but with offset
contact rows (in contrast to a PCMCIA card).
I've also got a 4MB and an 8MB short (about 2" long) 72-contact SIMM. One
is labeled "21xx Memory" if that's any help.
I've also got another small 8MB memory module about 2"x1" with two 30-pin
female headers on each end of one side.
Anyone have a need for these or even know what they are?
Cheers,
Chuck
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9 a.m.
Angel Martin Alganza wrote:
I have a Compaq Contura 410CX. It's a 486DX2-66
with 12MB in which
current versions of FreeBSD, OpenBSD or NetBSD won't install because
of the little RAM. I've had running FreeBSD, muLinux and Tiny Linux
on it, but I really would like to be able to install a current version
of one of the BSD, which I think it would be possible with a little
more RAM.
I've successfully installed NetBSD recently with 4MB RAM. It sucks, and
you have to install manually, but it works.
Peace... Sridhar
9:55 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:00:36AM -0500, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
I've successfully installed NetBSD recently with
4MB RAM. It sucks, and
you have to install manually, but it works.
Cool! I've just tried the network installation with the boot-tiny
floppy, but it fails to recognize my PCMCIA NIC. The normal boot
floppies won't work with 12MB.
Where can I read about the manually installation you refer to? I
woudn't mind installing even from floppies, since I enjoy reading
technical writings and trying out OS installations through different
methods.
Thank you and regards,
?ngel
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10:07 a.m.
Angel Martin Alganza wrote:
Which network card? It's very possible that the INSTALL_TINY kernel is
compiled without its support. I would suggest compiling a custom
INSTALL_TINY kernel with the support for your card added, and using that
kernel in the boot-tiny filesystem instead of the INSTALL_TINY kernel.
I've
successfully installed NetBSD recently with 4MB RAM. It sucks, and
you have to install manually, but it works.
Cool! I've just tried the network installation with the boot-tiny
floppy, but it fails to recognize my PCMCIA NIC. The normal boot
floppies won't work with 12MB. Where can I read about the manually installation you
refer to? I
woudn't mind installing even from floppies, since I enjoy reading
technical writings and trying out OS installations through different
methods.
Basically, it just involves doing everything sysinst does, but manually,
while skipping any steps which aren't completely necessary and use too
much RAM.
Peace... Sridhar
10:36 a.m.
Hi Sridhar,
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 10:07:27AM -0500, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Which network card? It's very possible that the
INSTALL_TINY kernel is
It's a PCMCIA ne2000 compatible NIC made by Accton. It gets
recognized by all (boot, bootlap, and boot-tiny) sets of floppies as
either ne0 or ne2. I asume there is support for it on all the
kernels, then.
Basically, it just involves doing everything sysinst
does, but manually,
while skipping any steps which aren't completely necessary and use too
much RAM.
I see. I'm trying to find a set of floppies to install from then,
since my laptop doesn't have a CD drive and I have no success with the
network installation. Do you know whether they exist at all?
Again thank you!
Angel
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10:57 a.m.
Angel Martin Alganza wrote:
It's recognized, but not working? In that case, I would suggest trying
a different card. It might be an incompatibility issue with the driver.
You have to take the fileset tarballs and run them through the split(1)
command on an existing NetBSD box, and then write them to DOS floppies.
The instructions are in the install docs. I guarantee you won't like
it. We're talking about dozens, if not hundreds, of floppies.
Peace... Sridhar
Which network
card? It's very possible that the INSTALL_TINY kernel is
It's a PCMCIA ne2000 compatible NIC made by Accton. It gets
recognized by all (boot, bootlap, and boot-tiny) sets of floppies as
either ne0 or ne2. I asume there is support for it on all the
kernels, then. Basically, it
just involves doing everything sysinst does, but manually,
while skipping any steps which aren't completely necessary and use too
much RAM.
I see. I'm trying to find a set of floppies to install from then,
since my laptop doesn't have a CD drive and I have no success with the
network installation. Do you know whether they exist at all?
11:28 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 10:57:22AM -0500, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
It's recognized, but not working? In that case, I
would suggest trying
Yes. It says there is a card at ne0 or ne2 (depending on the floppy
set I use) and then asks for the type of interface. I don't really
understand what this question is about but I've tried 2baseT, 10baseT,
and a few other answers somebody at comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc in
Usenet has sugested w/o any success.
a different card. It might be an incompatibility
issue with the driver.
I might do so. I'll try to borrow one and see what comes out.
You have to take the fileset tarballs and run them
through the split(1)
command on an existing NetBSD box, and then write them to DOS floppies.
The instructions are in the install docs. I guarantee you won't like
it. We're talking about dozens, if not hundreds, of floppies.
I see... I don't need a full installation. Having Vim, screen and SSH
would do for the use I want to give to my beloved Compaq laptop :-)
Cheers,
?ngel
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4:55 p.m.
Angel Martin Alganza wrote:
NE2000-compatibles are all over the map as far as compatibility. Try a
different card. I've had good luck under NetBSD with 3com PCMCIA cards.
Cool.
Even the base set is more floppies than you want to swap. See if you
can get a network card working. It's definitely worth the trouble.
Peace... Sridhar
It's
recognized, but not working? In that case, I would suggest trying
Yes. It says there is a card at ne0 or ne2 (depending on the floppy
set I use) and then asks for the type of interface. I don't really
understand what this question is about but I've tried 2baseT, 10baseT,
and a few other answers somebody at comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc in
Usenet has sugested w/o any success. a different
card. It might be an incompatibility issue with the driver.
I might do so. I'll try to borrow one and see what comes out. You have to
take the fileset tarballs and run them through the split(1)
command on an existing NetBSD box, and then write them to DOS floppies.
The instructions are in the install docs. I guarantee you won't like
it. We're talking about dozens, if not hundreds, of floppies.
I see... I don't need a full installation. Having Vim, screen and SSH
would do for the use I want to give to my beloved Compaq laptop :-)
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