3 Aug
2012
3 Aug
'12
7:54 p.m.
anyone familiar w/the 2nd edition? If so describe the cover for me. If you have a copy you
don't need, let me know.
3 Aug
3 Aug
9:06 p.m.
author would help.
try biblio.com, alibris.com and abebooks.com
all of them will let you restrict the country you search. (not sure you
are US or whatever)
I found a possible for $7.95 which was a theory of tv repair, and the title
you passed by Herrick. but I've never heard the title.
biblio and alibris tend to have the same listings, but biblio will have a
somewhat better listing of really obscure stuff.
the abebooks site didn't have much of what I searched for recently, not
sure why.
there's been a huge amount of politicing between the three sites, and
that's why there are three sites. Not sure about cross listing into
amazon. Amazon didn't have any of the rare books i searched for or they
were buried in crap listings.
I was (and am) searching for Elliott Organick texts, and still would like
to find the Burroughs B1700 text. I have an Intel 432 to swap if anyone is
interested. I don't care if they are in book collector condition, library
versions are fine.
thanks
jim
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com>wrote:
anyone familiar w/the 2nd edition? If so describe the
cover for me. If you
have a copy you don't need, let me know.
9:39 p.m.
________________________________
From: jim stephens <james.w.stephens at gmail.com>
author would help.
try biblio.com, alibris.com and abebooks.com
C: Abebooks has the 2nd edition. I'm not a total retard. I remember seeing it on a
library shelf a very long time ago and always wanted a copy of _that_.
I didn't want to give away that that edition had a test pattern on the cover. I was
hoping to hear from someone who had it. I should try another forum I guess.
Not sure what response I'd get if I asked Abe to describe the cover for me. It sounds
like he's old enough to know what a test pattern is, if that's the case.
There's another ooooold book that was in the college library that had a pullout
schematic of a tv receiver. I'm too tired and lazy to search (or find out if it's
still in the library). Dated from the 50s unless I'm mistaken. It was a book on radio
theory, yet dipped into television. Very cool.
I remember driving upstate NY and stopping in thrift stores and whatnot, late 80s early
90s. Those old texts could be had for a song. Not so sure these days. But now and again I
still find old electronic books or machinist manuals and such.
11:31 p.m.
On 8/3/2012 9:39 PM, Chris Tofu wrote:
________________________________
From: jim stephens <james.w.stephens at gmail.com>
author would help.
try biblio.com, alibris.com and abebooks.com
C: Abebooks has the 2nd edition. I'm not a total retard. I remember seeing it on a
library shelf a very long time ago and always wanted a copy of _that_.
I don't
recall saying anything but asking for the author, and
guessing. Still no answer to my question, just my guess. It was a
first addition.
I didn't want to give away that that edition had a
test pattern on the cover. I was hoping to hear from someone who had it. I should try
another forum I guess.
Not sure what response I'd get if I asked Abe to describe the cover for me. It sounds
like he's old enough to know what a test pattern is, if that's the case.
On
alibris, it has an advanced search option to restrict to listings
with only covers. If you get nothing with that on, so be it.
The answer above (from my guess) had the cover artwork, you could read
all you wished.
There's another ooooold book that was in the
college library that had a pullout schematic of a tv receiver. I'm too tired and lazy
to search (or find out if it's still in the library). Dated from the 50s unless
I'm mistaken. It was a book on radio theory, yet dipped into television. Very cool.
I remember driving upstate NY and stopping in thrift stores and whatnot, late 80s early
90s. Those old texts could be had for a song. Not so sure these days. But now and again I
still find old electronic books or machinist manuals and such.
I'll remember this when I try to assist any of your questions in the
future. I think the plonk applied earlier should have been applied in
this case.
Sorry to inconvenience you.
Be nice to the retards you run into. Some of them are friends of mine
with Autism and Downs syndrome.
jim
4 Aug
4 Aug
8:24 a.m.
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
C:\DERP> Abebooks has the 2nd edition. I'm not
a total retard. I remember
I've seen no evidence to support that statement.
g.
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10:54 a.m.
C:\Derp: Abebooks has the 2nd edition. I'm not a
total retard.
Not doubting your word, but how would we know?
And much easier to believe if you provided the full information.
5:34 p.m.
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From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
Not doubting your word, but how would we know?
And much easier to believe if you provided the full information.
C: You'll just have to believe me. And what is the sudden interest in this book all of
a sudden??
6:45 p.m.
C:\DERP> You'll just have to believe me. And what is the sudden interest
in this book all of a sudden??
Don't know; you are the first person to ask about it that I'm aware of.
Amongst my photography books from the 1940s and 1950s, there is a book
entitled "Color and Black and White". It might have been by Morgan and
Lester, as a supplement to their darkroom reference, but I don't have
convenient access right now. It was most definitely NOT a textbook, and I
don't think that there is a 2nd edition. Hardcover (certainly no picture
on the cover) and no dust jacket. So, no picture of a test pattern, which
would have been unlikely in that genre.
Its popularity was supplanted by Kodak's "Color As Seen And Photographed",
and the Kodak "Darkroom Dataguide" and "Color Dataguide", which was
full
of charts, diagrams, gray card and color test patches, and even multiple
spinning wheel calculators. 40 years ago, I traded one copy for unfettered
access to the files of the Michigan Water Resources board; I wouldn't
trade my remaining copy for anything less than a Kurta or Summicron.
Some old editions of Morgan and Lester's Leica Manual did have a B&W
picture of a test pattern inside, in a discussion of how to photograph TV
screens. 25? years ago, Dr. Marty and I did a quick and dirty summary
of the basic techniques for Rainbow (Coco) magazine.
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7:09 p.m.
________________________________
From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
C:\DERP> You'll just have to believe me. And what is the sudden interest
in this book all of a sudden??
Don't know; you are the first person to ask about it that I'm aware of.
C: I actually do appreciate when I'm the only person looking for something. Makes it
easier to get? it :)
?Trust me it's a book on television servicing. I'm looking at some of the stock
photos on abebooks, and I'm wondering if my brain just isn't working correctly
again. Those pictures actually look familiar (but a number of disparate isbn numbers have
the same picture, which is possible I guess, but unlikely). But chances are I'm
correct and there was a test pattern on one of the editions. Or printings. I'm trying
to track down specifics. I'll post my findings as it becomes appropriate to.
7:43 p.m.
C: I actually do appreciate when I'm the only person looking for
something. Makes it easier to get? it :)
Trust me it's a book on television servicing.
I'm looking at some of the
stock photos on abebooks, and I'm wondering if my brain just isn't
working correctly again. Those pictures actually look familiar (but a
number of disparate isbn numbers have the same picture, which is
possible I guess, but unlikely).
In the early days of ISBN[-10], not all publishers really "got it".
It was common for the same ISBN to get used on multiple editions,
and for different ISBNs to be used for different printings, not
just hardcvover V paperback.
There are a few other numbers to consider as an alternative to ISBN for
identification. (although not ASIN, which is just Amazon's stock number
substitute for items without ISBN)
Have you checked details with RR Bowker ("Books In Print")? That won't
have cover art, but could give you a list of which editions, ISBNs,
existed, IFF it was in print in the last 20 years or so. Sorry, I
recently got rid of my 1990 dead-tree shelf-full of BIP.
But chances are I'm correct and there was a test
pattern on
one of the editions. Or printings. I'm trying to track down specifics.
I'll post my findings as it becomes appropriate to.
Good luck,
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