10 Sep
2016
10 Sep
'16
8:31 p.m.
I've got the model for the Phillips p1000 love to get more stuff to go with
it. Got the paper cut out scan someone sent me a while back.
Came across this doing my once every few months search
https://aconit.inria.fr/omeka/items/show/595
http://amitrtlu.free.fr/guirimand/G3d.htm
What other obscure European Machean are out there? All seems we see is HP
and Dec mostly talked about yet we forget about allot of others and the
thread about that random lot of military grade Machean the chm called junk
trash didn't want got me thinking
10 Sep
10 Sep
9:44 p.m.
Clan MacHeans ne'er got involved with such.
Perhaps you mean the MacHines?
11 Sep
11 Sep
12:27 a.m.
Phillips in Europe was not part of Phillips in the us was it's own company
from what I've been able to find out the model I
have is from around 1968
post a link to a pic when I'm not on my phone
On Sep 10, 2016 11:44 PM, "Fred Cisin" <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Clan MacHeans ne'er got involved with such.
Perhaps you mean the MacHines?
2:03 a.m.
Op 11 sep. 2016 9:27 a.m. schreef "Adrian Stoness" <tdk.knight at
gmail.com>:
Phillips in Europe was not part of Phillips in the us was it's own company
from what I've been able to find out the model I have is from around 1968
post a link to a pic when I'm not on my phone
Philips (with a single L) is a Dutch company. They made a whole range of
computers at various times: home computers (P2000 and MSX), IBM PC
compatibles, an IBM PC/MSX hybrid (the :YES, notoriously incompatible with
either architecture), minicomputers (I have several members of the P800
series) and mainframes (P1000)
Camiel
8:23 a.m.
On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven
<iamcamiel at gmail.com> wrote:
Op 11 sep. 2016 9:27 a.m. schreef "Adrian Stoness" <tdk.knight at
gmail.com>:
Philips was founded around the end of the 19th century as a maker of light bulbs, got into
vacuum tubes in the 1920s or so. They bought Dutch computer pioneer Electrologica in 1965
but didn't do much with it. They also built various other computers. I worked on an
obscure one, the PR8000, a 24 bit minicomputer from Philips France (complete with French
assembler mnemonics).
paul
Phillips in Europe was not part of Phillips in the us was it's own company
from what I've been able to find out the model I have is from around 1968
post a link to a pic when I'm not on my phone
Philips (with a single L) is a Dutch company. They made a whole range of
computers at various times: home computers (P2000 and MSX), IBM PC
compatibles, an IBM PC/MSX hybrid (the :YES, notoriously incompatible with
either architecture), minicomputers (I have several members of the P800
series) and mainframes (P1000) 
11:39 a.m.
On 09/11/2016 08:23 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
Philips was founded around the end of the 19th century
as a maker of
light bulbs, got into vacuum tubes in the 1920s or so.
Philips was into everything. For simple appliances, most in North
America were completely unaware of the parent company, because personal
care products are marketed under the "Norelco" brand. I believe that
Philips acquired Sylvania, then sold it to Funai.
In 2000, Philips was the largest manufacturer of semiconductors, having
acquired both Signetics and VLSI Technology. later spun off as NXP to a
private investment consortium.
If you own a Sonicare electric toothbrush, that's Philips too.
It's pretty safe to say that almost everyone has a Philips product
somewhere in their life--it may not be branded with the Philips name
however.
--Chuck
7:52 p.m.
On 09/11/2016 01:39 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 09/11/2016 08:23 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
> Philips was founded around the end of the 19th century as a maker of
> light bulbs, got into vacuum tubes in the 1920s or so.
Original name was
N. V. Philips' Gloeilampenfabrieken
Philips was into everything. For simple appliances, most in North
America were completely unaware of the parent company, because personal
care products are marketed under the "Norelco" brand. I believe that
Philips acquired Sylvania, then sold it to Funai.
My pick and place machine has the Philips label, but was
actually made by Yamaha.
Jon
11:45 a.m.
so some actual macheans survived? love to see photos
you've prolly seen the model?
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8302/7944707284_f8f4fa6ab8_b.jpg
4:29 p.m.
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, Adrian Stoness wrote:
so some actual macheans survived? love to see photos
Many machines survived, including an amazing variety of machines that
Philips made, some of them being computer related.
But NO macheans survived. Not one.
Clan MacHean in Scotland denies ever being involved with anything like
that.
On the other hand, Clan MacPherson could really strut when it came to
automotive suspensions.
4:30 p.m.
On 12 September 2016 at 01:29, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
But NO macheans survived. Not one.
Clan MacHean in Scotland denies ever being involved with anything like that.
On the other hand, Clan MacPherson could really strut when it came to
automotive suspensions.
*Groan*
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7:24 p.m.
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, Adrian Stoness wrote:
-- Charles
so some actual macheans survived? love to see
photos
Many machines survived, including an amazing variety of machines that
Philips made, some of them being computer related.
But NO macheans survived. Not one.
Clan MacHean in Scotland denies ever being involved with anything like
that.
On the other hand, Clan MacPherson could really strut when it came to
automotive suspensions.
Whoops, there goes my suspension of disbelief. 
10 Sep
10 Sep
10:56 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 10:31:22PM -0500, Adrian Stoness wrote:
I've got the model for the Phillips p1000 love to
get more stuff to go with
it. Got the paper cut out scan someone sent me a while back.
Came across this doing my once every few months search
https://aconit.inria.fr/omeka/items/show/595
http://amitrtlu.free.fr/guirimand/G3d.htm
What other obscure European Machean are out there?
There are of course Norsk Data that made minis and micros (rumor has it
North Korea still runs ND). In Sweden we had Datasaab which made minis and
mainframes. I have a rare micro, the Datasaab D16 which is really a Facit
which is really an Addo.
Swedish NTI made an 8085 SBC kit for education called Mickey. Finish
Telercas made an 1802 based home computer called Telmac. (There are several
swidih micros as well due to NIH syndrome)
Even the danish made minis.
Facit made a very nice mini called DS9000 but only nine or so machines were
made for the military. It was a custom order, if they had gone commercial I
think it could have given the PDP-8 a run for its money, at least locally.
There was a french mini I'd like to mention but I don't recall de name.
Feel free to ask me for more details. Most of the above is fairly easily
googlable.
/P
11:46 p.m.
What other obscure European Machean are out there?
There are of course Norsk Data that made minis and micros (rumor has it
North Korea still runs ND). In Sweden we had Datasaab which made minis and
mainframes. I have a rare micro, the Datasaab D16 which is really a Facit
which is really an Addo
8:25 a.m.
On Sep 10, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Adrian Stoness
<tdk.knight at gmail.com> wrote:
...
What other obscure European Machean are out there?
Siemens made minicomputers. I ran into one at the TU Eindhoven (ME department) where it
controlled a precision plotter. 16 bit machine, with hex digits 0-9 and B-G.
That machine was used to draw neat graphics used on Dutch stamps (and maybe also paper
money?) of that era.
paul
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