After looking around on the net for a Dec MMJ terminal cable and finding conflicting sources for their pinouts, I figured it would be just easier to drive the 225mi round trip to dig around again int my favorite scrapper's junk piles... As luck would have it, I did find 4 of the cables and two RJ?? to db25 adapters. So... I speed home and hook up a few of the VaxStation 3100's for a virgin spin via the(MMJ) console and get: KA43-A V1.3 F...E...D...C...B...A...9...8...7...6...5...4...3_...2_...1?... ? C 0080 0000.40001 ?? 1 00C0 0000.7004 I'm guessing this is a memory or media fault but I'm not sure... Anyone? Also, I finally opened rack #4 of the 11/44 system http://users.leading.net/~dogas/classiccmp/digital/pdp1144.htm ) I picked up that was supposedly empty... And inside is a SC008 Star Coupler and User Manual! A little happy dance ensued, of course, but I thought these things were just for vax clusters. Can a 44 be a node along side MicroVAXen ??? I also found a reference on the web http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/internethistory/slide10.html ) that asserts that tcp was first written for a 44 too, is that true? Sorry for all the dec boneheadedness. Thanks - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net