While consolidating network cards into one box, I came across a couple I have no use for. One is an IBM Token Ring Card, they have a copyright notice on one of the chips and the center of the card is occupied by one of those square aluminum thingies that they're so fond of -- on the metal bracket with the connectors is a little paper sticker saying "16/4". The other is an SMC ARCnet card. I have no intentions of ever doing anything with either of these, so if you can use them please feel free to contact me offlist. -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin