15 Mar
2020
15 Mar
'20
9:49 p.m.
Hi All
With the upcoming demise of VMS/VAX I thought I might give NetBSD/vax a try.
Downloading a bootable image and burning it onto a CD was not a problem.
On the 3100 with attached RRD42 and SCSI drive RZ26l the CD duly booted
ito the NetBSD install menu.
All of versions 7,8 and 9. failed after partitioning at the point where
the system is copied to the hard disk.
Has anybody successfuly installed NetBSD on a VAX.? If which version on
which VAX
Rod Smallwood
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16 Mar
16 Mar
6:19 a.m.
Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote:
Hi All
With the upcoming demise of VMS/VAX I thought I might give NetBSD/vax a try.
Downloading a bootable image and burning it onto a CD was not a problem.
On the 3100 with attached RRD42 and SCSI drive RZ26l the CD duly booted
ito the NetBSD install menu.
All of versions 7,8 and 9. failed after partitioning at the point where
the system is copied to the hard disk.
Has anybody successfuly installed NetBSD on a VAX.? If which version on
which VAX
Rod Smallwood
--
I had several kinds of trouble installing NetBSD on Vaxstations in the
past. If I remember correctly one of the reasons for an failing install
was some trouble related to the cache and the SCSI Controller.
There is a maling list to which you should subscribe and report the
problem: port-vax at netbsd.org.
I think personally that NetBSD-vax is in a not so good state...
This is from 03/30/2013, there is (was?) a bunch of similar problems
on VS3100/M76, or VS4000/90 too, stray interrupts, segfailts in the
install script and so on.
If the system is finally running, most of the problems are gone, but
installing is a special thing it seems...
HI,
I've got some Vaxstations lately and today I've tried to install
NetBSD-6.1_RC2 on a VS3100M38 with 24Mbytes of RAM.
Disk is an IBM DCAS 34330, 4Gbyte.
I can do what I want, the install.ram is crashing while labeling the
disk,
regardless if I have overwritten the disk with zeros before ot not.
This is the last screen:
Status: Command ended on signal
Command: disklabel -w -r -f /tmp/disktab sd0 'DCAS-34330 '
Hit enter to continue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
uid 0, pid 7, command disklabel, on /: file system full
/: write failed, file system is full
pid 7 (disklabel): user write of 9272 at 0x1a2000 at 67912 failed: 28
-----------
I had all kinds of similar errors in the tris before that, illegal
instrcutions and so on.
The disk is ok, OpenBSD is running fine on that beast and I'm unable to
install more RAM as the two boards that are currently in that machine to
get more than 24MB.
What is the right way to install NetBSD on such a M38?
Kind Regards,
Holm
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Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583
info at tsht.de Fax +49 3731 74200 Tel +49 3731 74222 Mobil: 0172 8790 741
11:59 a.m.
I was able to MOP boot my VS3100 and 4000 with NetBSD-8.0 and do an
install. MOP boot host was a NetBSD install on x86 VM -- I usually use an
OpenBSD system for MOP booting, but apparently the MOP boot format has
changed slightly in recent releases (I forget which has changed their
format). I've heard from a few other hobbyists that they've also banged
their heads against that conflict! NetBSD was stable enough for me to get
an IRC client up and join #netbsd on FreeNode.
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:20 AM Holm Tiffe via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote:
Hi All
With the upcoming demise of VMS/VAX I thought I might give NetBSD/vax a
try.
Downloading a bootable image and burning it onto a CD was not a problem.
On the 3100 with attached RRD42 and SCSI drive RZ26l the CD duly booted
ito the NetBSD install menu.
All of versions 7,8 and 9. failed after partitioning at the point where
the system is copied to the hard disk.
Has anybody successfuly installed NetBSD on a VAX. If which version on
which VAX
Rod Smallwood
--
I had several kinds of trouble installing NetBSD on Vaxstations in the
past. If I remember correctly one of the reasons for an failing install
was some trouble related to the cache and the SCSI Controller.
There is a maling list to which you should subscribe and report the
problem: port-vax at netbsd.org.
I think personally that NetBSD-vax is in a not so good state...
This is from 03/30/2013, there is (was?) a bunch of similar problems
on VS3100/M76, or VS4000/90 too, stray interrupts, segfailts in the
install script and so on.
If the system is finally running, most of the problems are gone, but
installing is a special thing it seems...
HI,
I've got some Vaxstations lately and today I've tried to install
NetBSD-6.1_RC2 on a VS3100M38 with 24Mbytes of RAM.
Disk is an IBM DCAS 34330, 4Gbyte.
I can do what I want, the install.ram is crashing while labeling the
disk,
regardless if I have overwritten the disk with zeros before ot not.
This is the last screen:
Status: Command ended on signal
Command: disklabel -w -r -f /tmp/disktab sd0 'DCAS-34330 '
Hit enter to continue
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
uid 0, pid 7, command disklabel, on /: file system full
/: write failed, file system is full
pid 7 (disklabel): user write of 9272 at 0x1a2000 at 67912 failed: 28
-----------
I had all kinds of similar errors in the tris before that, illegal
instrcutions and so on.
The disk is ok, OpenBSD is running fine on that beast and I'm unable to
install more RAM as the two boards that are currently in that machine to
get more than 24MB.
What is the right way to install NetBSD on such a M38?
Kind Regards,
Holm
--
Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe,
Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583
info at tsht.de Fax +49 3731 74200 Tel +49 3731 74222 Mobil: 0172 8790 741
18 Mar
18 Mar
10:02 a.m.
It was pretty bad last time I tried to run NetBSD on my vaxen. Back around
NetBSD 1.5.2 or something like that I was able to install via mopboot on my
MicroVax 3600 and a few VaxStation 3100's. Years later I tried to boot it
up again and it couldn't boot without crashing. I tried a later release
and it wasn't much better. Install went OK, but the userland code was
compiled with some funky options that caused it to throw invalid
instruction exceptions. By then I had my VMS hobbyist kit.
-Dave
20 Mar
20 Mar
8:33 a.m.
On 3/18/20 10:02 AM, David Kuder via cctalk wrote:
It was pretty bad last time I tried to run NetBSD on
my vaxen. Back around
NetBSD 1.5.2 or something like that I was able to install via mopboot on my
MicroVax 3600 and a few VaxStation 3100's. Years later I tried to boot it
up again and it couldn't boot without crashing. I tried a later release
and it wasn't much better. Install went OK, but the userland code was
compiled with some funky options that caused it to throw invalid
instruction exceptions. By then I had my VMS hobbyist kit.
-Dave
Just as an added data point, I don't have any VAX running
at the moment but I have installed and run NetBSD-8.0 from
the iso. I have also MOP Booted using that version.
bill
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