John Foust wrote: There are two (related) reasons that I know of, neither of which should affect more than a small percentage of posts: 1. Alice sends a message to the list. Bob sends a reply, which goes to the list *and* Alice, for reasons we've discussed before. However, Bob doesn't post his reply from the address he subscribed to the list with, so it gets held for moderation. Before moderation happens, Alice replies to Bob's message (having received a copy directly), and this goes straight to the list. For a recent example of this, see the Econet thread, where Jules plays Alice and Dan guest stars as Bob. 2. Some people never post from the address they subscribed with! Their postings get held for moderation on cctalk and cctech. cctech is moderated more regularly than cctalk, because I expect cctalk's "held list" to mostly contain spam, which only needs clearing irregularly. Any cctech subscriber who replies to a posting will have their post distributed to both list views, possibly before the original post has come through on cctalk. Still with me? OK, the root problem here is people posting from addresses different from those they subscribed with. The number of people doing this has increased over the past year. Perhaps they are unaware that they are doing it, so when I see subscribers' postings being held on cctalk, I'll send out a reminder, in case they would like to subscribe from their new address instead. -- Paul