7 Mar
2001
7 Mar
'01
2:34 a.m.
Never mind, the guy called me and said he had already gotten rid of the VAXen.
Grrr!
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Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
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"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
7 Mar
7 Mar
5:07 a.m.
He didn't trash them did he.... if he did lets shoot him!
I wish I had a big Vax. I might be able to get a hold of a MVax 3600,
but one of those 6000s would have been better :-) I don't know much
about them, but it is a platform I would like to know more about. I had
an account on a Vax cluster in college, and liked it a lot.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
"Jeffrey S. Sharp" wrote:
Never mind, the guy called me and said he had already gotten rid of the VAXen.
Grrr!
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft advertisement
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
8:50 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Fernandez" <fernande(a)internet1.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: Value of a small VAX farm
He didn't trash them did he.... if he did lets
shoot him!
I wish I had a big Vax. I might be able to get a hold of a MVax 3600,
but one of those 6000s would have been better :-) I don't know much
about them, but it is a platform I would like to know more about. I
had
an account on a Vax cluster in college, and liked it a
lot.
Someone earlier in this thread said that they were often given away
these days.
(At least in the US) so a word on the list might be worthwhile.
They are probably the only really large vaxen that it is practical to
run in
a home environment for any length of time. The 400's and above are
quite fast
compared to the Microvaxen that are about, and they do SMP. Also much
easier
to add/subtract adapters from without fiddling with grant cards as in
Q-Bus boxes.
The 6000 Jeffrey mentioned with the 6 cpus and the KDB50 from the 310
would have made
a VERY slick standalone machine.
FWIW, a system like that, brand new, (early 90's) would have been worth
on the order of $500,000. (without drives)
Cheers
Geoff
12:52 p.m.
Someone earlier in this thread said that they were
often given away
these days.
I think that was me. They've basically got no commercial value (outside of
any rare cards they might contain). If you can find out about a company
wanting to get rid of one you might have a good shot if you simply offer to
deinstall it and haul it away for free!
(At least in the US) so a word on the list might be
worthwhile.
They are probably the only really large vaxen that it is practical to
run in
a home environment for any length of time. The 400's and above are
quite fast
compared to the Microvaxen that are about, and they do SMP. Also much
easier
to add/subtract adapters from without fiddling with grant cards as in
Q-Bus boxes.
Unless someone is wanting a system because of the hardware I'd have to
recommend getting either a VAXstation/MicroVAX 3100 series, or a
VAXstation 4000 series system if they want a VAX. If they're in it for
OpenVMS I'd really recommend going for a good Alpha. I'm taking several
things into consideration with this comment.
1. Power to run the system
2. The amount of physical space it will occupy
3. Obtaining reliable Hard Drives
4. Being able to connect a CD-ROM drive
Both #3 and #4 take having a SCSI Bus into account. If you're on the West
Coast of the US then #1 is likely to be a concern right now. As for #2,
what hobbyist has enough room :^)
If I was to go for a big VAXen, I'd probably look for either a 4000 or 7000
series that would fit in a standard 19" Rack, and talk to SCSI Disks. I've
been wanting something like that, but with the cost of electricity going up
I don't think I want to do that any time soon!
Besides in all honesty I prefer a nice DEC PWS with 24bit colour graphics,
100Mb Ethernet and nice fast SCSI disks for running OpenVMS. Now if only
said system had a good 24bit graphics card instead of the piece of garbage
it currently uses! I don't recommend Elsa Gloria cards for a VMS box!
Zane
8:39 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" <jss(a)ou.edu>
To: "ClassicCmp Mailing List" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: Value of a small VAX farm
Never mind, the guy called me and said he had already
gotten rid of
the VAXen.
Grrr!
Indeed.. Someone else knew what they were as well. I hope.
Cheers
Geoff
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