Okay, where to begin: I have several ///'s but no plus, so needless to say, im jealous:) The AA's are factory, they go to the clock circuit to retain the time, some later regular ///'s had this as well. {clone pc's use this method as well, like old DTK's} The profile drive is more tricky, I have one too and it works. It is not a bootable device, you need a "catalyst" disk, that's the disk that runs the card and initialized the drive. It has some kind of menu system you edit to bring up like a dosshell kinda of thing to select items, This I havent figured out yet, when I go into the "catalyst editor" i get a file now found. Mine came loaded and working. I have alot of original software and docs for the ///, but not the ///+, but if I know my history right, they ///+ was just basically the version that worked :) ---------- <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> a little