Ah, but there is French engineering and French domestic wiring (and French bricoleurs...) I agree that Citroens are wonderful, I had the opportunity of test driving a DS19 (or Pallas 21 or something probably) when I was 19 or thereabouts, on a French gravel road full of potholes. Absolutely fantastic suspension... French domestic wiring, on the other hand... :-O I remember getting a shock from a light switch, in my French godmother's house in a village in Charente-Maritime (same place I drove the Citroen). There was a fuseholder in the switch and the cover was broken and I happened to touch the bare metal. And I also had a look at the wiring in her Paris apartment. The previous tenant had "improved" it, using lots of "sparadrap" (sticking-plaster) to connect the extra wires... A wonder the place hadn't burst into flames. French domestic wiring is more like doll's house wiring. Flimsy 2-pin plugs where you connect the wires by jamming the bared ends under the pins, which screw into the plastic body of the plug. And so on. A Swedish inspector would probably have a heart attack merely from looking at it. Jonas