4 Jan
2012
4 Jan
'12
7:19 p.m.
ROFL...installed in hundreds of thousands, if not milliins of machines running all over
the world. Nearly all PPC-based Macs, all Suns (including current ones I think) past the
Sun4c family, all reasonably modern RS6000s, what else...it was an IEEE standard for a
long time, #1275.
-Dave
Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 4 Jan 2012 at 20:43, Toby Thain wrote:
That was implemented as
http://www.openfirmware.org/ (found in Suns,
Macs, etc).
The format is Fcode; it's actually a brilliant idea that of course was
of more pressing importance when the hardware market was actually
heterogeneous.
Finding anything about this is a little difficult--lots of 404s, etc.
when trying to search.
What was the last product that used Open Firmware? Most of this
stuff seems to be from the mid '90s.
--Chuck
4 Jan
4 Jan
7:55 p.m.
On 4 Jan 2012 at 22:19, Dave McGuire wrote:
ROFL...installed in hundreds of thousands, if not milliins of
machines running all over the world. Nearly all
PPC-based Macs, all
Suns (including current ones I think) past the Sun4c family, all
reasonably modern RS6000s, what else...it was an IEEE standard for a
long time, #1275.
My list of IEEE standards says that IEEE 1275-1994 was withdrawn in
1998--5 years. I blinked and missed it, I guess--I was off doing
PeeCee stuff and didn't notice.
Shame, it was a nice idea.
--Chuck
8:17 p.m.
On 01/04/2012 10:55 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
ROFL...installed in hundreds of thousands, if not
milliins of
Yes, apparently the $$ was a factor. But the fact that the IEEE
blood money hadn't been paid didn't have any bearing on its deployment.
As I said, I believe even current big Sun machines use it. Certainly
the just-previous generation does. (one twenty feet from me) OpenBoot
is hardly unknown. It just runs in machines that reboot so infrequently
that their admins rarely see it. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA
machines running all over the world. Nearly
all PPC-based Macs, all
Suns (including current ones I think) past the Sun4c family, all
reasonably modern RS6000s, what else...it was an IEEE standard for a
long time, #1275.
My list of IEEE standards says that IEEE 1275-1994 was withdrawn in
1998--5 years. I blinked and missed it, I guess--I was off doing
PeeCee stuff and didn't notice.
Shame, it was a nice idea. 
9:05 p.m.
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 01/04/2012 10:55 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
While [U]EFI is standard on Intel Macs, it still doesn't seem to have much
of a foothold. What's going on with Coreboot?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
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ROFL...installed in hundreds of thousands, if
not milliins of
Yes, apparently the $$ was a factor. But the fact that the IEEE blood
money hadn't been paid didn't have any bearing on its deployment. As I said,
I believe even current big Sun machines use it. Certainly the just-previous
generation does. (one twenty feet from me) OpenBoot is hardly unknown. It
just runs in machines that reboot so infrequently that their admins rarely
see it. ;) machines running all over the world. Nearly
all PPC-based Macs, all
Suns (including current ones I think) past the Sun4c family, all
reasonably modern RS6000s, what else...it was an IEEE standard for a
long time, #1275.
My list of IEEE standards says that IEEE 1275-1994 was withdrawn in
1998--5 years. I blinked and missed it, I guess--I was off doing
PeeCee stuff and didn't notice.
Shame, it was a nice idea. 
9:56 p.m.
On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 4 Jan 2012 at 22:19, Dave McGuire wrote:
My list of IEEE standards says that IEEE 1275-1994 was withdrawn in
1998--5 years. I blinked and missed it, I guess--I was off doing
PeeCee stuff and didn't notice.
It was withdrawn as an IEEE standard, but that didn't cause people to stop using it.
:-) Apple certainly used it all the way through the end of the G5s.
- Dave
8:13 p.m.
ROFL...installed in hundreds of thousands, if not
milliins of machines
running all over the world.
You know what, I'm a total moron. OpenFirmware machines are still made: my
POWER6 has OpenFirmware, and I'm sure the POWER7s still do. I imagine even
the current SPARC Snoracle machines do too.
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