I don't care whether these things sell for a million each. It still won't make me want one. I suppose if someone had a lot of dough and some peculiar nostalgia. I don't miss the old Apples ... Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chandra Bajpai" <cbajpai(a)attbi.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: RE: Apple-1 Auction conclusion

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Wayne M. Smith wrote: Nope! He'd just throw it out with other useless oddities like his Honus Wagner baseball card. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

A tobacco card from the mid-teens...Hockey great Wayne Gretzkey bought one at one point for a very large sum and this same card was later sold on eBay, by another party, for $1.1million. Jeff -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

NO! It means I haven't got one, and I don't want one either. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Apple-1 Auction conclusion Festival -- http://www.vintage.org *

--- Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: Anyone have Erlacher's address handy? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Richard Erlacher wrote: That's a bit high. If you have a dozen to sell, that should tilt the market for them downwards. If this last one sold for $14,000 then these, in untested, as-is condition, should sell for only about $9,000 each. I'll buy one from you. Do you have a PayPal account? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

Let's quit this line of nonsense. All the Apple products in the universe aren't worth the bandwidth already wasted on it. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Apple-1 Auction conclusion Festival -- http://www.vintage.org *

[Radio voice] Hello guy and gals, wellcome to the anual Sam/Dick roundup [RV] Not a world class kick off, but at least Dick got the ball roling [RV] Yes, Sam is taking over. A short sprint over the 180 degree line and back to Dick... [RV] What's next ? Stay tuned and wait for more from the boys... Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

Nothing as good as this ... well, I think I just remembered Christian Fandt taking me to my first rodeo ever last year :) It just took over. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Richard Erlacher wrote: No, you've already surpassed the flame war quota for the CC list this month. Any more and it would just ruin next month's appetite. I'm going to Germany now to spend the money I made off the Apple-1 auction. Have any relatives you'd like me to drop in and say hello to whilst over there? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

--- Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: Because stone knives and bearskins are so much cooler; water-resistant, too. First time it rains on sticks and dirt and you'll probably get an overflow error. :-) -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/

Uh-Oh ... acceptable when he can seperate the used dirt form earth itself ... if not, we get 6x10^24 kg as mass for the computer... I'd rather not calculate this. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote: Would that be in TerraZuse ?

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: -1 Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Richard Erlacher wrote: Actually, (and I think most other list members would agree with me), I think the bandwith you're using to bash classic machines (and unix) isn't worth our bandwith. -- Pat

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Richard Erlacher wrote: You can't extract the power supply from the Apple-1. It didn't have one. You had to provide your own. Please don't put your Apple-1 out by the dumpster. That would be a shame. If you want to get rid of it, let me know and I'll make an offer. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Hans Franke wrote: chief programmer of Apple-DOS 1.0?

Hey ... I guess I hit something ... :) :) Well, I see there are a few signs of life left in the baseball crowd ... at least not all are so old that they can't lift their ass ... Serious, Kricket is more entertaining than baseball. THere you get at least a flair of the world, when an Austrailian and an Indian team plays ... and these guys still dress better ... Are you trying to point to the secon not so fancy sport thing over there ? Real sport is if the same guys go ahead and kick an odd shaped ball without any sissy armor ... Well, real men call this Rugby ... and no real comparsion possible to the slow motion action of some pampered American Football guys. Try to do better... BTW, I always expected studio apartments to be a bit larger. Oh, and before we finish: The sport is called Football, and maybe not played near where you're liveing. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

Baseball is NOT a sport. It is merely a hobby practiced by typically overweight out of shape men who scratch and spit a lot. How athletic is it, really, to run 90 feet at a time about once an hour, if that? Baseball does take skill, mind you, but the players are no more athletes than those who win at Quake tournaments. Battery throwing is more of a sport and is practiced more by Raiders fans than Yankees fans. Then again, if baseball is a sport, so must be dumpster diving and that makes many of US athletes, right? :) Erik -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ernest Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:43 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Apple-1 Auction conclusion Honus is Baseball not a sport? Sigh. You silly Germans. Just because the fans don't kill each other or the opposing fans doesn't mean that it's not a real sport. Unlike European Soccer hooligans, baseball fans are typically a much more relaxed crowd -not including the yankee fans who pride themselves on their ability to hit opposing players with batteries from 10 rows back. Baseball is certainly more of a sport than Soccer. Sure, Soccer players have to be able to run up and down the field, kick a ball, and grab their knees in pain when an opposing player runs by without touching them but that's not exactly a "sport." Make the goal the size of a Basketball hoop, and that would be a sport. Give the players long sticks, and sharp skates and then it would be a sport. Make the players 250+ pounds, and give them full armor and then it would be a sport. Trying to kick a little white ball into a goal the size of a studio apartment is not a sport. Pretending that your knee is broken is more like stage acting. Could you imagine a 2nd baseman dramatically pretending to have a broken leg just because he was slightly bumped by a runner going by? Or an outfielder writhing in agony like his back is broken just because he dropped a ball? Haha. Of course not. They would be laughed off the field but in Soccer, play acting is a required "skill." What kind of a sport is that? I always feel a little embarrassed for them when I see them hamming it up for the cameras. "Oh Mother! My leg is broken. It's worst injury ever." Then, after the referee gives him the foul, he stands back up (like a man) and runs off again. It's brilliant acting but do they ever feel ashamed? E.

Well, I'd say you should register for the VCFe, where the super heavy weight champions meet - at VCFe 1.0 we shoveled a Vax 11/750 and some perhipheral boxes from the exhibition ground back into a basement ... the stairway was barely as wide as the machine. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

Well, we tried to squash Sallam, but somehow he's still functional :) Gruss H. BTW: VCFe 3.0 is near - if noone has any plans by now .... -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

Rumor has it that Sellam Ismail may have mentioned these words: Gee, Sellam... Who'd you miss??? :-) "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: Heh. I feel your pain. When I picked up the MV-II that Terry posted her last month, he and I had to hump the 42" DEC rack cabinet down a flight of 32" stairs. The rack, with vent panels on, is like 28" wide. I have no idea what the damn thing weighs. (Wait! I do so know. The PDP-11/93 came in an identical cabinet. With 2 ~35lb BA23s installed, it weighed 385lb. I know that for sure because I got charged by the pound....) Anyway, Terry & I hustled that rack, 2 BA23s with the MV & expansion cab, a PDP-11/53 in BA23, and a PDP-8/a with dual 8" floppies down those damn stairs. Fun. Not. I'd like to bring one of the 42" cabinets upstairs to house all these '23s, but the Spousal Equivalent flatly refuses to help. ;) Doc

Richard Erlacher wrote: Well, I certainly would want to have one but I somehow doubt that paying a lot of money for a piece of electronic equipment that is not useful for anything today is sane. Additionally I figure that people who can afford to pay that much and actually do so are not really serious collectors by the standards of this list, they just want an investment. Thomas -- Thomas S. Strathmann http://pdp7.org RMS: NOOOOOObody expects the GNU Inquisition! Confess! Confess! Confess!

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Wayne M. Smith wrote: You rang? Doc

The same could be said for anyone who collects anything that isn't used on a regular basis, be it cars, planes, old radios, fine china, ivory, stupid porcelin clowns, etc. --John

On eBay, a T-shirt from Abercrombie and Fitch that was deemed to be offensive to Chinese-Americans sold for $15,000.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote: It's probably bogus. I heard it on the TV "news", and there was not enough information to follow up.

Me personally, richer. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Hark, the Herald Tribune sings/Advertising wondrous things. -- Tom Lehrer --

Could someone tell me what's up with these shirts ? Well, I'd rather suggest t's like 'Amiga is lame' or 'Fogett Atari' ... You know, stuff wich may have been offensive to geeks 10 years ago ... Either we sell them for their nostalgic value or to fuel ne home comuter wars :) Both off us would own an Apple 1 at a reasonable price ? -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: I got one: See Dick post. See Dick flame. See Dick with foot in mouth. Don't be a Dick. (Ok, so it's not my best work.) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *