27 Jan
1998
27 Jan
'98
11:18 a.m.
That's easy... the IBM 5100 is well over 50 lbs.
Kai
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From: cdenham(a)tgis.co.uk [SMTP:cdenham@tgis.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 1:35 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Mines heavy er than yours
While moving some off my old computers around I wandered which was the
heavy est luggable ever made so just for fun I got the bathroom
scales out and weighted some off them .
Commodore sx64 23 pounds
Osbourne One 28 pounds
Andromeda Zita D 44 pounds
So lets have a fun competition , get those bathroom scales out and
find out who made the heavey est luggable .
Happy weighing
Chris
ps
Any body got a boot disk for the Andromeda Zita D , I think its
CPM based on a Raid its got 5 1/4 disks on it .
27 Jan
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12:01 p.m.
On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
Well, my HP2100A CPU has a handle on the side... And
it's a stagger-job
to move it - I guess it weighs around 100 lbs. I am _NOT_ carrying it
upstairs to weigh it, though.
Why not take the scale downstairs, then?
<g>
ok
r.
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12:32 p.m.
On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
Well... the PDP-8/e in the desktop configuration (handle on either side)
with a decent set of boards and core hits right beweeen 95-100 lbs.
(*big* transformer in that linear power supply)
BTW: If I bolt a couple of handles on the top of my 11/780 can it play
too? (so it won't feel left out... CPU at about 1150 lbs.)
-jim
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That's easy... the IBM 5100 is well over 50 lbs.
Well, my HP2100A CPU has a handle on the side... And it's a stagger-job
to move it - I guess it weighs around 100 lbs. 
12:35 p.m.
(Handles on an 11/780)
Nope, to pe bortable you have to be able to PORT it. (I.E lift it).
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2:42 p.m.
(Handles on an 11/780)
Nope, to pe bortable you have to be able to PORT it. (I.E lift it).
Well, given the handles to attach to, and a chainhoist, I'm pretty sure I
could lift it. Sounds like to much effort though :^)
One question, for it to be considered portable do you have to move it all
at once?
Zane
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28 Jan
28 Jan
2:38 a.m.
Not really. But the entire moving operation should take less than a day.
Besides, doesn't an 11/750 need 3-phase? I thought all the bug VAXen did.
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5 a.m.
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
Not really. But the entire moving operation should
take less than a day.
Besides, doesn't an 11/750 need 3-phase? I thought all the bug VAXen did.
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Recurrant rumour... 'Want', yes. 'need', no.
All of the individual power supplies in the 11/780 are single phase 110vac
units as in all of the DEC gear I've even come across. The 'power
controller' that was standard in the '780 took the 3 phase input line and
split the phases into seperate outlet banks.
Bypass or replace the power controller, and party on! Of course, you
still end up needing three 50 amp 110vac circuits... B^{
-jim
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6:33 a.m.
(buncha 1-phase plugs inside an 11/750)
Does that work for a VAX 780 as well?
?
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7:42 a.m.
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
(buncha 1-phase plugs inside an 11/750)
Does that work for a VAX 780 as well?
?
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Mayhaps I brain-farted on part of the original message... I was referring
to a 11/780 in my comments about 3 phase and the power controller.
I've seen some followups that seem to suggest that the initial query
referred to a 11/750. A '750 (or at least all of mine) have been single
phase.
My '780 however was initially 3 phase as in my prior comments.
Summary: to date I have never run into a DEC mini that could not run on
single phase power with an absolute minimum of fiddling. (usually just
unplugging all of the single phase power supply pigtails from the back of
the power controller)
-jim
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7:45 a.m.
That's what I wanted to hear! That means I can continue collecting 780 parts.
Maybe someday I'll have a runnable configuration...
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5:41 a.m.
Excerpts from moparbb.classiccmp: 28-Jan-98 Re: Mines heavy er than
yours Daniel Seagraves(a)toad.xk (157)
Not really. But the entire moving operation should
take less than a day.
Besides, doesn't an 11/750 need 3-phase? I thought all the bug VAXen did.
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I have a couple of these and all I needed to do was change the plug to a
"normal" house connector to run it at 110v single phase. After powerup
my system draws about 10A. An RA81 draws about 6A after spinup. I
haven't measured the surge at startup :)
Jerome
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27 Jan
27 Jan
1:44 p.m.
James Willing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
Well... the PDP-8/e in the desktop configuration (handle on either side)
with a decent set of boards and core hits right beweeen 95-100 lbs.
(*big* transformer in that linear power supply)
BTW: If I bolt a couple of handles on the top of my 11/780 can it play
too? (so it won't feel left out... CPU at about 1150 lbs.)
Go ahead. Make sure the handles are sized and spaced right for tines of
the forklift.
--
Ward Griffiths
Dylan: How many years must some people exist,
before they're allowed to be free?
WDG3rd: If they "must" exist until they're "allowed",
they'll never be free.
That's easy... the IBM 5100 is well over 50 lbs.
Well, my HP2100A CPU has a handle on the side... And it's a stagger-job
to move it - I guess it weighs around 100 lbs. 
12:34 p.m.
Well, my HP2100A CPU has a handle on the side... And
it's a stagger-job
to move it - I guess it weighs around 100 lbs. I am _NOT_ carrying it
upstairs to weigh it, though.
Well, if what your looking for is handles, my PS/2
Model 80 weighs about
50lbs or so. Or if you want to go into the wheeled category, my IBM
Series/1 weighs several hundred pounds... Not luggable, but it's
pushable(barely).
-JR http://members.tripod.com/~jrollins/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1681/
2:44 p.m.
Well, if what your looking for is handles, my PS/2
Model 80 weighs about
50lbs or so. Or if you want to go into the wheeled category, my IBM
Series/1 weighs several hundred pounds... Not luggable, but it's
pushable(barely).
The S/1s have the WORST casters I have ever dealt with on a wheeled rack!
Anyway, the heaviest luggables that _were_ intended to be lugged are some
of the computers the military purchased (just the detachable control panel
of a PDP-11/M weighs five pounds!). Most of them are, ummm, built to
last.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
3:37 p.m.
The S/1s have the WORST casters I have ever dealt with
on a wheeled rack!
Why is that? They seem to work pretty good for me... I suppose it would be
nice if they rolled a bit easier though. Small steel wheels never work
well, I know that first hand from some VERY old completely metal roller
skates my mom got at a garage sale a few years back. They did not work at
all! They quickly dissappeared into the backyard after they were left out
in the rain and rusted away to nothing... No big loss, except perhaps to
look back at a small piece of history... I'm sure they must've been at
least 30 years old. And I killed them... Well, now I get to play with
computers, and the metal wheels on my Series/1(IBM 4997 rack) work much
better than those old roller skates. And as a bonus, they skid across the
surface of the basement floor(bare concrete), which is much easier than
trying to swivel them around in a complete circle to move them...
Especially since the racks don't clear the huge (at least 1 foot diameter)
ducts coming from a hug octopus furnace, which I am told was converted to
oil and used to be a coal burning furnace. I'll have to put up a QuickCam
photo of that furnace on my web page eventually... Right now it's hidden
behind a bunch of old furnature and spare 4997 racks.
-JR http://members.tripod.com/~jrollins/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1681/
1:21 p.m.
The handle on the HP2100A is in case it falls on someone, a team of
people can get it off...
-Mike
Tony Duell wrote:
That's easy... the IBM 5100 is well over 50 lbs.
Well, my HP2100A CPU has a handle on the side... And it's a stagger-job
to move it - I guess it weighs around 100 lbs. I am _NOT_ carrying it
upstairs to weigh it, though.
Kai
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