<The IBM entry into the PC market was in mid-1981, I think, and the Model-3 <was rushed to get out ahead of it. The Apple-II exlposion wasn't quite <underway yet, but the handwriting was on the wall. No. By then the apple and trs80 were common as house flies. In fact in 1980 we used Apples and TRS80s running a similar program for forcasting as they were in wide use around the shop. They were both in the market in terms of volumes nearing a 500k system each if not more by 1980. the PC wasn't an impact until 82 maybe 83. Memories and events seem to get compressed or expanded. I's even say the PC was not a serious contender till mid 83. Allison