17 Nov
2020
17 Nov
'20
10:12 a.m.
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing
to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually*
need them for my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment.
In ham radio net style, chat on list, and conduct business directly /
off list.
*I still haven't found sufficient Round-to-Its to get off my posterior.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
17 Nov
17 Nov
11:21 a.m.
On 11/17/2020 10:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they
would be willing to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will
eventually* need them for my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe
network segment.
You can actually make these yourself if you can't buy them.
There are, I think 5 twisted pairs in a shield.
A LONG time ago, I made a few of them when I needed them
right now.
Jon
12:10 p.m.
On 11/17/20 10:21 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
You can actually make these yourself if you can't
buy them. There are, I
think 5 twisted pairs in a shield.
A LONG time ago, I made a few of them when I needed them right now.
Interesting.
Thank you for the information Jon.
I might prefer the pricing of making them myself than some of -- what I
think are -- the exhortation prices that I'm seeing on eBay.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
12:20 p.m.
On 11/17/20 1:10 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 10:21 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Too bad they weren't this valuable a few years ago. When I was still
working my department moved to a new building at the University. We
were seeing our space greatly reduced and being a pack rat was no longer
a valid option. I threw more than 100 of them out because I couldn't
even find anyone to take them from me for nothing.
bill
You can actually make these yourself if you
can't buy them. There are,
I think 5 twisted pairs in a shield.
A LONG time ago, I made a few of them when I needed them right now.
Interesting.
Thank you for the information Jon.
I might prefer the pricing of making them myself than some of -- what I
think are -- the exhortation prices that I'm seeing on eBay.
12:54 p.m.
On 11/17/20 10:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Too bad they weren't this valuable a few years ago.? When I was still
working my department moved to a new building at the University.? We
were seeing our space greatly reduced and being a pack rat was no longer
a valid option.? I threw more than 100 of them out because I couldn't
even find anyone to take them from me for nothing.
bill
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated their
thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors. Never could figure out the
reason for that--it seemed like a very awkward setup.
--Chuck
1:06 p.m.
On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that
terminated
their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors. Never could figure
out the reason for that--it seemed like a very awkward setup.
The /coax/ was terminated in a 15-pin AUI connector?
Or the machine facing connector on the tap was 15-pin AUI?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
2:12 p.m.
On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
No, the AUI was the standard DA-15 to the 10Base5 transceiver; forgive
my clumsy response.
Yes, I know that's obvious, but there are probably few who remember the
agony of thicknet.
--
--Chuck
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think)
that terminated
their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors.?? Never could figure out
the reason for that--it seemed like a very awkward setup.
The /coax/ was terminated in a 15-pin AUI connector?
Or the machine facing connector on the tap was 15-pin AUI?
3:03 p.m.
On 11/17/20 3:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time
not really much agony.
bill
On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
No, the AUI was the standard DA-15 to the 10Base5 transceiver; forgive
my clumsy response.
Yes, I know that's obvious, but there are probably few who remember the
agony of thicknet.
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think)
that terminated
their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors.?? Never could figure out
the reason for that--it seemed like a very awkward setup.
The /coax/ was terminated in a 15-pin AUI connector?
Or the machine facing connector on the tap was 15-pin AUI?
3:54 p.m.
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 3:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
--
--Chuck
Sent from my digital computer
On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
Agony?? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time
not really much agony.
bill On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
No, the AUI was the standard DA-15 to the 10Base5 transceiver; forgive
my clumsy response.
Yes, I know that's obvious, but there are probably few who remember the
agony of thicknet.
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think)
that terminated
their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors.?? Never could figure out
the reason for that--it seemed like a very awkward setup.
The /coax/ was terminated in a 15-pin AUI connector?
Or the machine facing connector on the tap was 15-pin AUI?
3:57 p.m.
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Agony?? Considering the alternatives to compare it to
at the time
not really much agony.
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!)
At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC
fittings I find to be preferable to "vampire taps" and tape measures.
Just remember the terminators.
:)
--Chuck
4:05 p.m.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
That's true for either kind. Also remember to put the terminators only at the ends.
I've seen magazine articles showing a terminator in the middle (on a T connector)!
BTW, you can mix the two, just connect the sections with a BNC to N barrel. Use the
10Base2 limits in that case.
The measuring stuff only really matters for large installations. If you're using
thickwire with 20 stations or 100 meters or small configs like that, don't worry about
it.
paul
Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare
it to at the time
not really much agony.
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!)
At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC
fittings I find to be preferable to "vampire taps" and tape measures.
Just remember the terminators.
5:27 p.m.
On 11/17/20 5:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
As long as you can live with the collisions. Network would still
function but efficiency would be lower as number of collisions went
up. And they would. The proper way to mix 10Base5 and 10Base2
was with a 10Base2 hub connected to the yellow cable with a transceiver.
As for transceiver placement, those black marks were there for a reason.
:-)
bill
On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
That's true for either kind. Also remember to put the terminators only at the ends.
I've seen magazine articles showing a terminator in the middle (on a T connector)!
BTW, you can mix the two, just connect the sections with a BNC to N barrel. Use the
10Base2 limits in that case.
The measuring stuff only really matters for large installations. If you're using
thickwire with 20 stations or 100 meters or small configs like that, don't worry about
it.
Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare
it to at the time
not really much agony.
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!)
At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC
fittings I find to be preferable to "vampire taps" and tape measures.
Just remember the terminators.
6:07 p.m.
On 11/17/20 3:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
That's true for either kind. Also remember to put
the terminators
only at the ends. I've seen magazine articles showing a terminator
in the middle (on a T connector)!
How?!
The T is inherently three points; up-stream (cable), NIC, down-stream
cable).
Did they connect multiple Ts together?
Did they use a BNC barrel on the unused NIC connection and add a terminator?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
6:37 p.m.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 11/17/20 3:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
There was an article in the magazine RSTS Professional -- unfortunately I don't have
it any longer. It mentioned that you can connect thick to thin coax. That is true; both
are 50 ohm cable so you can use them interchangeably, provided you derate the network to
the lower of the two specs. BTW, that also applies to my comment on transceiver
placement. 10Base2 has no placement rules, which means that a network no larger than
10Base2 limits can be built on thickwire with placement ignored just as well.
What they got wrong is that they showed the splice being made by a T connector that had a
terminator on the third port. So a terminator -- which by definition goes at the
terminus, the end, of the cable, here was put in the middle. That will mess up the signal
integrity very badly.
You're right, any transceiver connection is a T; or as transmission line people would
say, a stub. Stubs are fine if they are electrically short, i.e., a small fraction of a
wavelength in length, and the end of the stub is high impedance. Transceivers are high
impedance circuits so this works.
A vampire tap is one way to build a short stub. The T connector attached directly to the
10Base2 transceiver on the bulkhead is another. A thickwire transceiver connected with an
N/N/N T connector would also work; I haven't see any of those used in practice. The
key thing, as others mentioned, is not to lengthen the stub. You don't put a length
of coax between bulkhead and the 10Base2 T connector if you want the network to operate.
paul
That's true for either kind. Also remember
to put the terminators only at the ends. I've seen magazine articles showing a
terminator in the middle (on a T connector)!
How?!
The T is inherently three points; up-stream (cable), NIC, down-stream cable).
Did they connect multiple Ts together?
Did they use a BNC barrel on the unused NIC connection and add a terminator?
8:49 p.m.
When I expanded my network between floors in my own home, I dropped the
10Base$ stuff, moved to 10Base2 because I could drill a small hole with
long 1/4" drill bit, just above the toe molding and snake the RG58 cable
through it. RG8 would have required a much larger hole. Later, I used
the RG8 to pull the Cat5 cable. I still have a pile of RG8 with BNC
fittings; have never been able to find a taker.
Interestingly, some years after the move to Cat5, I had some work done
on the outside of the house. Not letting an opportunity slip by, I
drilled holes between the top and bottom plates of the floor and
inserted a piece of thick steel wire inside that extended into both the
first and second story wall pockets. The idea was that I could *some
day* locate the steel wire, cut a hole for a receptacle box in the wall,
and use the steel wire to pull cable to the floor below.
Never got around to it. Someday, someone remodeling this place is going
to find that wire and wonder what the heck it was all about.
FWIW, I'm still using a couple of Farallon 100BaseT network hubs on the
cable run. Never have found a good reason to upgrade them--they're
housed in metal cases, after all. Paid $5 each NOS back in the
day--someone had dumped them at the local E-waste recycler.
More and more of my gear uses WiFi now. For those bits that aren't
Wifi-equipped, I use cheap TPLink Wifi repeaters to provide Cat5
connection to the WiFi.
--Chuck
5:20 p.m.
On 11/17/20 2:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has
moved the
buttons!)
If an extra blank reply is the worst that happens today, then I think
it's a good day.
At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any
day. Lots of BNC
fittings I find to be preferable to "vampire taps" and tape measures.
Just remember the terminators.
Did vampire taps vs full terminations with N (?) connectors on taps make
any difference?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
5:22 p.m.
On 11/17/20 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Which was nice until one of your users wanted to move their desk or
computer and put an extension between the T-connector and the computer.
Agony?? Considering the alternatives to compare
it to at the time
not really much agony.
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!)
At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC
fittings I find to be preferable to "vampire
taps" and tape measures.
Just remember the terminators.
If you were using yellow ethernet cable and not generic RG-8 no
tape measure. The tap locations were marked on the jacket. And
vampire taps were no big deal. I still have my drill. Biggest
problem was keeping the building electricians from grounding the
terminators at both ends.
bill
6:10 p.m.
On 11/17/20 4:22 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Biggest problem was keeping the building electricians
from grounding
the terminators at both ends.
Didn't the building electricians know that they should not ground both
ends of ground wire, lest they introduce sneak currents?
Or am I giving them more credit than they deserve?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
5:17 p.m.
On 11/17/20 1:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
No, the AUI was the standard DA-15 to the 10Base5
transceiver;
forgive my clumsy response.
Thank you for clarifying. I considered it more likely that you had
typed correctly and there was yet another thing that I was ignorant
about. ;-)
Yes, I know that's obvious, but there are probably
few who remember
the agony of thicknet.
And here I am actively seeking it out.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
1:46 p.m.
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them for
my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment.
In ham radio net style, chat on list, and conduct business directly / off list.
*I still haven't found sufficient Round-to-Its to get off my posterior.
I can see them still for sale as current products.
One is from Black Box, at an insane price, with actual AUI style (slide lock) connectors.
There are several others that are much less expensive, with regular screw lock DA-15
connectors. And of course cables with those connectors are readily available from the
usual suspects (I like L-com).
The question is whether "plain" cables are electrically adequate. Most likely
yes, especially in the short lengths. They might not be twisted pairs and/or shielded per
spec, but if you're only going a meter or two, that's unlikely to matter at 10
Mb/s rates.
FWIW, there exist adapters from slide latch to screw lock DA-15; I have one I bought from
L-com so I could attach a 10BaseT transceiver with slide lock posts to my Pro-380, which
has a screw lock DA-15 connector for its Ethernet port.
paul
1:50 p.m.
New subject: AUI cables
I built a bulkhead cable for the DEQNA card using a shielded (but untwisted) joystick
extension cable. Ultimately, I found the actual bulkhead cable, but mine worked just fine.
Granted, it was only 1-foot long, but untwisted probably wouldn't matter for a short
length as Paul mentioned.
Rich
?On 11/17/20, 2:46 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Paul Koning via cctalk"
<cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org on behalf of cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them for
my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment.
In ham radio net style, chat on list, and conduct business directly / off list.
*I still haven't found sufficient Round-to-Its to get off my posterior.
I can see them still for sale as current products.
One is from Black Box, at an insane price, with actual AUI style (slide lock)
connectors.
There are several others that are much less expensive, with regular screw lock DA-15
connectors. And of course cables with those connectors are readily available from the
usual suspects (I like L-com).
The question is whether "plain" cables are electrically adequate. Most
likely yes, especially in the short lengths. They might not be twisted pairs and/or
shielded per spec, but if you're only going a meter or two, that's unlikely to
matter at 10 Mb/s rates.
FWIW, there exist adapters from slide latch to screw lock DA-15; I have one I bought
from L-com so I could attach a 10BaseT transceiver with slide lock posts to my Pro-380,
which has a screw lock DA-15 connector for its Ethernet port.
paul
2:01 p.m.
New subject: AUI cables
There's another possible solution, if you don't trust plain cables: make your own.
The spec is quite clear in the Ethernet specification.
paul
On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Richard Cini
<rich.cini at verizon.net> wrote:
I built a bulkhead cable for the DEQNA card using a shielded (but untwisted) joystick
extension cable. Ultimately, I found the actual bulkhead cable, but mine worked just fine.
Granted, it was only 1-foot long, but untwisted probably wouldn't matter for a short
length as Paul mentioned.
Rich
?On 11/17/20, 2:46 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Paul Koning via cctalk"
<cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org on behalf of cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them for
my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment.
In ham radio net style, chat on list, and conduct business directly / off list.
*I still haven't found sufficient Round-to-Its to get off my posterior.
I can see them still for sale as current products.
One is from Black Box, at an insane price, with actual AUI style (slide lock)
connectors.
There are several others that are much less expensive, with regular screw lock DA-15
connectors. And of course cables with those connectors are readily available from the
usual suspects (I like L-com).
The question is whether "plain" cables are electrically adequate. Most
likely yes, especially in the short lengths. They might not be twisted pairs and/or
shielded per spec, but if you're only going a meter or two, that's unlikely to
matter at 10 Mb/s rates.
FWIW, there exist adapters from slide latch to screw lock DA-15; I have one I bought
from L-com so I could attach a 10BaseT transceiver with slide lock posts to my Pro-380,
which has a screw lock DA-15 connector for its Ethernet port.
paul
2:05 p.m.
New subject: AUI cables
On 11/17/20 2:50 PM, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote:
I built a bulkhead cable for the DEQNA card using a
shielded (but untwisted) joystick extension cable. Ultimately, I found the actual bulkhead
cable, but mine worked just fine. Granted, it was only 1-foot long, but untwisted probably
wouldn't matter for a short length as Paul mentioned.
Doesn't need to be very long for a QBUS box. However, the cable for the
DEUNA/DELUA Ethernet Bulkhead Kit is over 6 feet long. Still have some
of those hanging around here. Wish I could get an other 11/24 to use
one in. :-(
bill
1:55 p.m.
On 11/17/20 2:46 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
For those who might be curious, the screw-on type AUI were a
requirement for TEMPEST installs back in the day. I used to
have a bunch of them, too. TEMPEST PC's would have a short
cable going from the network card (frequently Western Digital
WD8003E) to the bulkhead connector to make the transition
inside the beefed up TEMPEST case. Those were the days!!
By the way, I still have a bunch of AUI to 10BaseT transceivers
still in their cute little cardboard boxes. Their marketing
life was short and people I worked for ended out with more
spares than they could ever hope to use. I imagine they are
getting rare at this point.
bill
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them for
my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment.
In ham radio net style, chat on list, and conduct business directly / off list.
*I still haven't found sufficient Round-to-Its to get off my posterior.
I can see them still for sale as current products.
One is from Black Box, at an insane price, with actual AUI style (slide lock) connectors.
There are several others that are much less expensive, with regular screw lock DA-15
connectors. And of course cables with those connectors are readily available from the
usual suspects (I like L-com).
The question is whether "plain" cables are electrically adequate. Most likely
yes, especially in the short lengths. They might not be twisted pairs and/or shielded per
spec, but if you're only going a meter or two, that's unlikely to matter at 10
Mb/s rates.
FWIW, there exist adapters from slide latch to screw lock DA-15; I have one I bought from
L-com so I could attach a 10BaseT transceiver with slide lock posts to my Pro-380, which
has a screw lock DA-15 connector for its Ethernet port.
6:13 p.m.
On 11/17/20 12:55 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
For those who might be curious, the screw-on type AUI
were a
requirement for TEMPEST installs back in the day. I used to have a
bunch of them, too. TEMPEST PC's would have a short cable going from
the network card (frequently Western Digital WD8003E) to the bulkhead
connector to make the transition inside the beefed up TEMPEST case.
Those were the days!!
Intriguing.
By the way, I still have a bunch of AUI to 10BaseT
transceivers still
in their cute little cardboard boxes. Their marketing life was short
and people I worked for ended out with more spares than they could
ever hope to use. I imagine they are getting rare at this point.
I still see AUI to 10BaseT or even 10Base2 transceivers quarterly, if
not monthly in a few different haunts.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
2:22 p.m.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
One is from Black Box, at an insane price, with actual
AUI style (slide
lock) connectors.
There are several others that are much less expensive, with regular
screw lock DA-15 connectors. And of course cables with those connectors
are readily available from the usual suspects (I like L-com).
In maybe 2 minutes of clicking I found these reasonably priced and using
standard slidelock assemblies, sold brand new on both sides of the pond:
http://www.computercableinc.com/ccinc/products.jsp?sub=AUI+Transceiver&…
http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=TRAN-6
https://www.betterbox.co.uk/products/5m-thick-aui-transceiver-drop-cable-m-…
FWIW, there exist adapters from slide latch to screw
lock DA-15; I have
one I bought from L-com so I could attach a 10BaseT transceiver with
slide lock posts to my Pro-380, which has a screw lock DA-15 connector
for its Ethernet port.
Slidelock assemblies and individual parts of those are sold separately,
for all shell sizes actually, in retail quantities by the usual suspects
(Mouser, Farnell/Newark, RS, etc.), so with suitably designed connectors
(i.e. ones that accept 4/40 UNC jack posts rather than thumb screws only;
not all unfortunately) these could be used to replace original screwlock
bits. I used these sources on a couple occasions to replace damaged or
missing parts.
Maciej
5:45 p.m.
On 2020-11-17 3:22 p.m., Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote:
In maybe 2 minutes of clicking I found these reasonably priced and using
standard slidelock assemblies, sold brand new on both sides of the pond:
http://www.computercableinc.com/ccinc/products.jsp?sub=AUI+Transceiver&…
http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=TRAN-6
Those seem rather high priced to me.
These are not true AUI cables, but they are what I use for about 1/4 the
price of the ones mentioned above:
https://www.cablesalescanada.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=480_49…
(That's a Canadian seller since that's where I am, but they'll ship to
the US if that's where the original poster is.)
6:22 p.m.
On 11/17/20 4:45 PM, John-Paul Stewart via cctalk wrote:
Those seem rather high priced to me.
Ya. They are actually (just barely) higher than I can find them on eBay
($20).
Maybe I'm being a cheapskate. I like the $5 price a lot better. I
think that's much closer to what I paid at Peoria Super Fest years ago
for them. They were falling off the back of multiple trucks.
These are not true AUI cables, but they are what I use
for about 1/4
the price of the ones mentioned above:
https://www.cablesalescanada.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=480_49…
(That's a Canadian seller since that's where I am, but they'll ship
to the US if that's where the original poster is.)
That's more to my (cheapskate) liking.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
7:05 p.m.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Well, you can't expect consumer prices for pro's stuff and then uncommon,
niche one, can you? Even if it once used to be consumer's and common.
This is hardly more than I recently paid per piece, not including postage
across the pond, for a bunch of suitably long three-way IEC 60320 C13/C14
leads for use with a remotely controlled PDU. Which is considerably less
advanced a piece of technology than an AUI cable.
And things do get yet worse if space constraints such as with some DEC
gear mandate that you use a right-angle AUI cable. Then you get this:
https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/LCN216-0003/BLACK%20BOX/LCN216-0…
Mind that this is whole 3ft!
And then if you're lucky enough, you get just about anything for free.
Maciej
Those seem
rather high priced to me.
Ya. They are actually (just barely) higher than I can find them on eBay
($20).
Maybe I'm being a cheapskate. I like the $5 price a lot better. I think
that's much closer to what I paid at Peoria Super Fest years ago for them.
They were falling off the back of multiple trucks.
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jpstewartï¼ personalprojects.net -
macroï¼ linux-mips.org -
paulkoningï¼ comcast.net -
rich.ciniï¼ verizon.net