The current only supports VAX VMS 5.4-6.1 period, no layered products. However V2 of the hobbist program is supposed to be announced at http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ on the 1st of March. It will apparently cover VAX, Alpha and some layered products. Yes, I'm bouncing off the walls waiting to find out which ones. I've included the latest info I've found on the newsgroup (yes, I want to share the pain of waiting). Sounds like those of you that aren't DECUS members will want to join up, last I checked you could still join for free (for all that goes, guess I'd better make sure my membership is up to date). Not quite sure how to interpret the first message below, but I hope all that stuff is on the new Hobbiest program! I want to build a cluster :^) Zane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:10:47 comp.os.vms Thread 71 of 122 Lines 35 Re: hobbyist vms RespNo 3 of 6 Phillip Helbig <helbig(a)man.ac.uk> at University of Manchester, NRAL Newsgroups: comp.os.vms In article <36D33E9E.15A11514(a)Montagar.com>om>, "David L. Cathey" <davidc(a)Montagar.com> writes: OK. I just got an email from a very reliable source who sent me the March 1999 longwords. Hobbyist license for VAX and ALPHA (presumably any version, as has been the case with VAX for a while now) and, get this, LAYERED PRODUCTS. That's stuff like the best compilers in the world. VAXset (DECset?), UCX, more than one user, clustering,... Didn't see Fortran in the list; SURELY an oversight as C, Cobol, BASIC are all there. So, VMS is being marketed. We have much more than a `compiler package' in the layered products. Hard- and software costs have been comparable to unix for a while now. (Certainly that's not the reason some folks don't run VMS (i.e. they wouldn't run it even if it were cheaper).) The VMSstation will be appearing soon. Who would have thought this a year ago? Rejoice! Rejoice! Rejoice! -- Phillip Helbig Email ......... p.helbig(a)jb.man.ac.uk Nuffield Radio Astronomy Laboratories Tel. ... +44 1477 571 321 (ext. 2635) Jodrell Bank Fax ................ +44 1477 571 618 Macclesfield Telex ................ 36149 JODREL G UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL Web ... http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/ My opinions are not necessarily those of NRAL or the University of Manchester. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:25:02 comp.os.vms Thread 71 of 122 Lines 23 Re: hobbyist vms RespNo 4 of 6 David L. Cathey <davidc(a)montagar.com> at Montagar Software Concepts Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Phillip Helbig wrote: Hey! We haven't even mailed out the March issue yet! We'll be running Hobbyist V2.0 similar to how we've done the previous version, except we will be E-mailing a command file of PAK's instead of displaying a "PAK Page" for you to print. And, of course, you will need to be a registered DECUS member. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - David L. Cathey |Inet: davidc(a)montagar.com Montagar Software Concepts |Fone: (972)-578-5036 P. O. Box 260772, Plano, TX 75026 |http://www.montagar.com Postmaster, Hostmaster, Webmaster |http://www.whiteice.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |