17 Sep
2018
17 Sep
'18
8:04 a.m.
From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
a 7" android tablet based on the wondermedia wm8650 SOC
...
these things are so old they've disappeared from the market
Well...not 7", but there is this:
https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/
KJ
17 Sep
17 Sep
8:43 a.m.
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 17:05, Ken Seefried via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Well...not 7", but there is this:
https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/
True.
I have not had or used an Android Blackberry with a hardware keyboard,
but I did have a Passport, the older QNX-based device.
One thing to note about the keyboard is that is has no punctuation
marks at all. It only has letters, backspace, return, Alt and Shift.
No keys for numbers or . , ' ? & * | > < etc.
Some of these things are accessible with Alt, some with softkeys on
the display, and some will be hard to find at all.
It was great for entering English text but I suspect it would be a
real handful for shell commands or in a terminal emulator.
The Psion/Gemini keyboard doesn't have many, just these:
, /
' ~
. ?
... and it causes problems for non-English users. It has no keys for
?, ?, ?, ?, ? and so on. There are workarounds but users of languages
with many diacritics tend to be very used to having dedicated keys for
these things.
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3:04 p.m.
The BBKey2 has punctuation on the keys. It's not all of them (|, &
and \ aren't there), but the SYM key brings up an onscreen keyboard
with those. Not ideal, but I would argue reasonable compromise for
something relatively modern that fits in your pocket. Not sure about
diacritics, but at least in the older BBs, my French and German
colleagues didn't seem to have trouble sending messages with them.
KJ
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:43 AM Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 17:05, Ken Seefried via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Well...not 7", but there is this:
https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/
True.
I have not had or used an Android Blackberry with a hardware keyboard,
but I did have a Passport, the older QNX-based device.
One thing to note about the keyboard is that is has no punctuation
marks at all. It only has letters, backspace, return, Alt and Shift.
No keys for numbers or . , ' ? & * | > < etc.
Some of these things are accessible with Alt, some with softkeys on
the display, and some will be hard to find at all.
It was great for entering English text but I suspect it would be a
real handful for shell commands or in a terminal emulator.
The Psion/Gemini keyboard doesn't have many, just these:
, /
' ~
. ?
... and it causes problems for non-English users. It has no keys for
?, ?, ?, ?, ? and so on. There are workarounds but users of languages
with many diacritics tend to be very used to having dedicated keys for
these things.
--
Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
Email: lproven at cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven at gmail.com
Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven
UK: +44 7939-087884 - ?R (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053 
3:26 p.m.
On Sep 17, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Ken Seefried via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
As long as you are connecting over the network, my iPod Touch works quite well for Multics
and Unix, when running SecureCRT. It?s semi-usable for VMS (lacking in keys). The same
app works pretty good with the iPad and large wireless keyboard.
Zane
a 7" android tablet based on the wondermedia wm8650 SOC
...
these things are so old they've disappeared from the market
Well...not 7", but there is this:
https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/
KJ
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