Uncle Roger wrote:
At 11:59 PM 5/12/98 +0000, you wrote:
Apple and 8bitters of it's ilks that is found
in K-12 has it's places
because these are what excels at teaching kids materials but in high
school level, we need to convert guys over to real things like
windows and 486 boxens, unix and like using word processing and
speadsheets, such yak yak..of most types not including 100% dumb M$
NONONONONONONONO!!!
Word Processing and Spreadsheets, even 'net access can be taught just fine
on 8-bit machines, or DOS-based PC's. The younger kids are the ones who
can profit most from the non-textual interfaces that the newer machines can
offer.
To over-simplify: Older kids can read; they can learn to type commands.
Younger kids can't read; they need pictures (icons).
I taught myself to read before I was five. This has handicapped me
ever since GUI systems arrived, since to me the hieroglyphs are _not_
intuitive -- give me words, not pictures. Admittedly I'm some kind of
mutant since literacy isn't a big thing in my family. Give me a Korn
(or Bourne) shell interface over the best Microsoft or Apple have to
offer, I'll get the job done faster (and be able to explain the work)
than anybody with a mouse. (Yes, I _do_ use X on my Linux systems,
mostly so I can have five or six xterms on the screen). The only thing
school did for me was to teach me to run, fleeing the bigger kids who
thought I was smarter than they were and didn't want the "curve"
ruined.
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Ward Griffiths
They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.
Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else.
Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_