11 Nov
2005
11 Nov
'05
3:28 a.m.
On 11/11/05, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
My point would be that you're more likely to have
that DECstation on
a network than someone is likely to have their PDP-11 running V6 Unix.
Nah. I won't put it on the net. I just want to feel/experience the
native OS which this machine came with. That's all.
Besides, I have no desire to run old versions of Unix, I'd just as
soon run a supported version (almost said new version, but I still
use Solaris 8). Also, I don't run Unix on my PDP-11's, as there are
plenty of interesting OS's that won't run on anything else.
Absolutely. I agree with you 100%.
Running Unix on PDPs would be so..anti-climax..
11 Nov
11 Nov
5:29 a.m.
At 11:28 AM +0800 11/11/05, Wai-Sun Chia wrote:
I'm almost shocked you agree, I realize my stance on the subject
isn't always the most popular. Still when you can run some variant
of Unix on just about every hardware platform out there, why run it
on platforms that have unique OS's available. My one exception to
this has been running Unix on some of my Alpha's in the past,
although these days I'd only use them for OpenVMS. I think another
part of it for me is that I like to run Unix on nice fast systems
with lots of bells and whistles (though oddly enough everything
except XEmac's and Firefox tend to be character based, so I don't
really need a lot of speed except for surfing) :^/
Zane
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On 11/11/05, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at
aracnet.com> wrote:
Ah, OK then :^) Put that way, that's something I can understand.
My point would be that you're more likely to
have that DECstation on
a network than someone is likely to have their PDP-11 running V6 Unix.
Nah. I won't put it on the net. I just want to feel/experience the
native OS which this machine came with. That's all. Besides, I
have no desire to run old versions of Unix, I'd just as
soon run a supported version (almost said new version, but I still
use Solaris 8). Also, I don't run Unix on my PDP-11's, as there are
plenty of interesting OS's that won't run on anything else.
Absolutely. I agree with you 100%.
Running Unix on PDPs would be so..anti-climax.. 
7:32 a.m.
New subject: Early Unix, was Re: Ultrix for DECstations
Wai-Sun Chia wrote:
On the other hand, it would be neat, historically, to have an 'original'/early
Bell Labs UNIX running on the period PDP model, but I suppose/gather such a
version no longer exists (before wider release, or before all the variant
spinoffs, or before say ~1976).
What is the oldest version (year) of UNIX available or known to be still existant?
Besides, I
have no desire to run old versions of Unix, I'd just as
soon run a supported version (almost said new version, but I still
use Solaris 8). Also, I don't run Unix on my PDP-11's, as there are
plenty of interesting OS's that won't run on anything else.
Absolutely. I agree with you 100%.
Running Unix on PDPs would be so..anti-climax.. 
7:58 a.m.
New subject: Early Unix, was Re: Ultrix for DECstations
Brent Hilpert wrote:
On the other hand, it would be neat, historically, to
have an 'original'/early
Bell Labs UNIX running on the period PDP model, but I suppose/gather such a
version no longer exists (before wider release, or before all the variant
spinoffs, or before say ~1976).
What is the oldest version (year) of UNIX available or known to be still existant?
Source code or executable code? Don't ask me , ask them!
http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/ The 5 th edition seems to be the
earliest complete
version. Also the C language has changed a good bit between version #1
and #5 too.
9:26 p.m.
New subject: Early Unix, was Re: Ultrix for DECstations
woodelf wrote:
Brent Hilpert wrote:
Neat.. that pretty much covers it.
I liked the last part of the following quote:
"If you have a historical bent, then you can run 5th, 6th or 7th Edition Unix.
These tend to be limited in the hardware that they support. I'd recommend that
you use one of the PDP-11 emulators for these systems, as it will give you less
heartache then trying to install it on a real -11, and you probably will
get frustrated by these old systems anyway."
For anyone else interested, the above links to an article on the early
development:
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/docs/unix.html
And Ritchie provides some of his notes from 1972,
with mention of the DEC hardware supported:
http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/notes.html
What is the oldest version (year) of UNIX available or known to be still existant?
Source code or executable code? Don't ask me , ask them!
http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/ The 5 th edition seems to be the
earliest complete
version. Also the C language has changed a good bit between version #1
and #5 too.
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