der Mouse wrote: Yes this is definitely true, however it isn't always reliable. I've run into many situations in which SPARCstation-2 and -5 systems think there's a keyboard attached when there in fact is not, and thus become inaccessible on the console. This is much more important in some situations than in others, though...I've used far more SS2/SS5 systems on shelves in racks in a datacenter than I have on desktops. In that environment, it pays to "lock" things where you want them rather than depend on autodetection. I follow the same philosophy when it comes to autonegotiation of Ethernet parameters such as speed and duplex. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Cape Coral, FL