6 Apr
2012
6 Apr
'12
2:07 a.m.
Is anyone here aware of a gizmo that will let me plug a USB mouse into an
ADB socket? I'm trying to come up with a way to shoehorn modern optical
mouse guts into a classic Macintosh mouse.
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6 Apr
6 Apr
6:59 a.m.
I'm working on making a device to convert USB keyboards and mice (through a hub or
KVM, generally) to ADB. What would the demand be like for something like this? Would
anyone else want one (or ten)? I'm not looking to make any money, just keep
production costs down by going in volume.
Naturally, it would be open source and field-updateable.
- Dave
On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:07 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Is anyone here aware of a gizmo that will let me plug a USB mouse into an ADB socket?
I'm trying to come up with a way to shoehorn modern optical mouse guts into a classic
Macintosh mouse.
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dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
11:46 a.m.
I'm working on making a device to convert USB
keyboards and mice (through a
hub or KVM, generally) to ADB. What would the demand be like for something
like this? Would anyone else want one (or ten)? I'm not looking to make
any money, just keep production costs down by going in volume.
I'd sure use something like that. Optimally it should emulate the media keys
available on certain ADB targets (used on PowerBooks, for example) so that the
USB eject, volume, brightness, etc., would be translated into the ADB events
for that. They're in the HID source for most of the Linux distributions, as
Apple in typical fashion don't have them documented.
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7 Apr
7 Apr
12:29 p.m.
> I'm working on making a device to convert USB
keyboards and mice (through a
> hub or KVM, generally) to ADB.
One bit of weirdness you may have trouble mapping to a stock USB keyboard is how the power
button is
handled in ADB, and also how Apple USB keyboards handle the their power buttons in a
non-USB compliant way.
9:17 p.m.
On Apr 7, 2012, at 12:29, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
Indeed. I was actually considering just putting a physical button on the converter for the
power button (since it's very seldom completely necessary except to produce a hard
reset or NMI through key combos). I haven't actually looked into how Apple's
keyboards do the power button via USB; do you have a quick pointer I could look at?
- Dave
> I'm working on making a device to convert
USB keyboards and mice (through a
> hub or KVM, generally) to ADB.
One bit of weirdness you may have trouble mapping to a stock USB keyboard is how the
power button is
handled in ADB, and also how Apple USB keyboards handle the their power buttons in a
non-USB compliant way. 
12 Apr
12 Apr
6:02 p.m.
On 6 April 2012 07:07, David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
Is anyone here aware of a gizmo that will let me plug a USB mouse into an
ADB socket? ?I'm trying to come up with a way to shoehorn modern optical
mouse guts into a classic Macintosh mouse.
I was going to recommend one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-2001-ADB-iMate-Universal-adapter/dp/B000067V8L
... Then I realised you want to go the other way...
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9:46 p.m.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, Liam Proven wrote:
On 6 April 2012 07:07, David Griffith <dgriffi at
cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
I found something from geethree.com that goes the desired direction.
Unfortunately it appears to be a bit too large to stick in a mouse. Oh
well. At least I can cram PS/2 mouse guts into an ADB mouse and use
geethree's device.
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A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Is anyone here aware of a gizmo that will let me plug a USB mouse into an
ADB socket? ?I'm trying to come up with a way to shoehorn modern optical
mouse guts into a classic Macintosh mouse.
I was going to recommend one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-2001-ADB-iMate-Universal-adapter/dp/B000067V8L
... Then I realised you want to go the other way...
10:05 p.m.
On Apr 12, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 6 April 2012 07:07, David Griffith <dgriffi at
cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
Indeed! I'm actually typing this through an iMate right now on
an Extended Keyboard II, which is still the best keyboard I can
find for the Mac (issues with the "out" key combination
notwithstanding). You can usually find them a lot cheaper for
"Buy It Now" sale on eBay, too.
But yes, I'm talking about something to convert modern USB HID
devices into ADB keyboards and mice (and joysticks, if I can
get my act together) since I hate trawling eBay looking for
old keyboards which may or may not be broken, covered in sticky
nicotine residue, etc. Also so I can use a USB KVM between
both my classic Macs and my PC. Should be a one-chip solution
with modern ARM micros.
- Dave
Is anyone here aware of a gizmo that will let me plug a USB mouse into an
ADB socket? I'm trying to come up with a way to shoehorn modern optical
mouse guts into a classic Macintosh mouse.
I was going to recommend one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-2001-ADB-iMate-Universal-adapter/dp/B000067V8L
... Then I realised you want to go the other way...
10:45 p.m.
On 4/12/12 7:05 PM, David Riley wrote:
Indeed! I'm actually typing this through an iMate
right now on
an Extended Keyboard II, which is still the best keyboard I can
find for the Mac
The macally ikey is pretty similar to the EKII as far as keyboard
feel and layout. That is the only keyboard I've ever used on USB
Macs since Mr. Jobs' USB keybortions.
13 Apr
13 Apr
11:30 a.m.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 4/12/12 7:05 PM, David Riley wrote:
I fully agree; you _cannot_ design a keyboard for aesthetics, and to
Steve, not much else mattered. It's such a critical peripheral to the
usability of a machine that you'd think a manufacturer would put some
thought in to the design. However, the POS HP board that I'm typing
this on would tend to indicate otherwise...
- Alex
Indeed! ?I'm actually typing this through an
iMate right now on
an Extended Keyboard II, which is still the best keyboard I can
find for the Mac
The macally ikey is pretty similar to the EKII as far as keyboard
feel and layout. That is the only keyboard I've ever used on USB
Macs since Mr. Jobs' USB keybortions.
14 Apr
14 Apr
8:54 a.m.
On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 4/12/12 7:05 PM, David Riley wrote:
I at least like the tactile feel of their most recent keyboards a
lot better than that of the mushy ones from the original iMac up
to a few years ago. They keep doing away with useful keys ("who
uses function keys, anyway?") though, and I still like the feel
of the AEK II a lot better.
I still haven't spent any significant time with a Model M-style
keyboard (of which there are quite a few now), but I'm quite
happy with my current setup.
- Dave
Indeed! I'm actually typing this through an
iMate right now on
an Extended Keyboard II, which is still the best keyboard I can
find for the Mac
The macally ikey is pretty similar to the EKII as far as keyboard
feel and layout. That is the only keyboard I've ever used on USB
Macs since Mr. Jobs' USB keybortions.
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