Real 5251s and their keyboards are just annoying uncommon enough that a number of IBM collectors on this list will probably kill you for every modification you make. Use another keyboard, please. -- Will -----REPLY----- Well, I suspected as much when I did some quick google searches and only found them in either computer museums or at parts resellers charging some fairly steep prices. I had a hunch this part deserved a better fate than what I had in store for it. I can do without the death threats though, I did at least *ask* before gutting it. :-) I have nothing against IBM mainframes or their collectors and I can sympathize with their plight as to finding those rare parts. However, I still need a rather mundane parallel ASCII keyboard and am going to either build or buy one. If any of the IBM collectors out there want this keyboard, I will gladly trade it for a like valued item. No, that does not mean those ridiculus prices the IBM parts resellers are asking, just something I need or want like a parallel ASCII keyboard, a 100tpi 5.25" floppy disk drive, or some other S-100 related doodad. Me keeping this keyboard in my basement is not much better than throwing it away. I have zero interest in IBM system 34's or 5251 terminals or whatever these things are really used for. Someone please make a reasonable offer. Thank you. Andrew Lynch