9 Dec
2003
9 Dec
'03
8:37 a.m.
On Dec 9, 11:22, Frank McConnell wrote:
Paul Williams <paul(a)frixxon.co.uk> wrote:
So do I -- "be generous in what you accept and strict in what you
create" or similar words. On the other hand, RFC1049 doesn't allow the
"Content-type:" that Tony's mail contains, nor does RFC822, and as you
imply, Tony's mail isn't MIME-compliant -- so it's broken too.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Pete Turnbull wrote:
[Quoting headers from one of Tony's emails]
Please read section 4 of RFC 2045, then try to find the
"MIME-Version:" header in Tony's messages, then you may understand
that Tony's mailer isn't sending MIME messages. There is some
language in that section that permits software to interpret non-MIME
messages "according to local conventions", but if it tries to treat
non-MIME messages according to the MIME standards and loses, then I'm
free to consider it broken, and I do! Content-Type: text
Moreover, they have no attachments, no hooks for attachments, and
nothing other than correct ASCII headers and plain ASCII text (as,
indeed, the headers indicate).
This header is invalid according to RFC 2045, because it should
contain a type and subtype (in this case, it should be text/plain). 
9 Dec
9 Dec
9:39 a.m.
Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote:
So do I -- "be generous in what you accept and
strict in what you
create" or similar words. On the other hand, RFC1049 doesn't allow the
"Content-type:" that Tony's mail contains, nor does RFC822, and as you
imply, Tony's mail isn't MIME-compliant -- so it's broken too.
Content-type: was something of a mess for a while; I remember the RFC
822 extensions group going round on it for a while on the way to
hashing out what became MIME.
(plays with google a bit) Ah good, someone kept the ietf-822 mailing
list traffic from the early 1990s.
<http://www.imc.org/ietf-822/old-archive1/msg00001.html> for an
example. I gather from that that there was an RFC draft in the early
1990s in which "Content-type: text" was permitted, and that by that
time it was considered ambiguous.
-Frank McConnell
10:58 a.m.
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12:03 p.m.
> So do I -- "be generous in what you accept
and strict in what you
> create" or similar words. On the other hand, RFC1049 doesn't allow the
> "Content-type:" that Tony's mail contains, nor does RFC822, and as
you
> imply, Tony's mail isn't MIME-compliant -- so it's broken too.
So what do you want me to change? Should it be
text/plain? Or should I
remove that header line altogether (I am not going to totally upgrade my
mail software!). Or should I just stop posting here?
Probably should be text/plain. I note that you're using vanilla Elm (I'm
using the ME+ branch myself).
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Cameron Kaiser, Floodgap Systems Ltd * So. Calif., USA * ckaiser(a)floodgap.com
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3:35 p.m.
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
...and I, in turn, have been using pine for a number of years
without becoming aware of any similar reception problems. I have
had folks comment on a missing attachment, but only when I forgot
to attach it :(
- don
> So do I
-- "be generous in what you accept and strict in what you
> create" or similar words. On the other hand, RFC1049 doesn't allow the
> "Content-type:" that Tony's mail contains, nor does RFC822, and as
you
> imply, Tony's mail isn't MIME-compliant -- so it's broken too.
So what do you want me to change? Should it be
text/plain? Or should I
remove that header line altogether (I am not going to totally upgrade my
mail software!). Or should I just stop posting here?
Probably should be text/plain. I note that you're using vanilla Elm (I'm
using the ME+ branch myself). --
---------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --
Cameron Kaiser, Floodgap Systems Ltd * So. Calif., USA * ckaiser(a)floodgap.com
-- Birth, n.: The first and direst of all disasters. -- Ambrose Bierce --------
10:31 p.m.
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 00:58, Tony Duell wrote:
So what do you want me to change? Should it be
text/plain? Or should I
remove that header line altogether (I am not going to totally upgrade my
mail software!). Or should I just stop posting here?
Don't know, don't know, don't know, and no.
:-)
cheers
Jules
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