Eric Chomko <chomko(a)greenbelt.com> wrote: Some, like the PCPI Applicard, may have more claim to SBCness than others; the Applicard doesn't rely on the Apple for much other than power (unlike the Softcard-alikes which used the Apple's RAM) and I think I remember PCPI demoing one at Applefest in Boston in 1982 by way of having the card out on the table with a 9V battery hooked up to it via clip-leads. Mind, I can't remember what it was actually doing (if anything) without any I/O hooked up to it. -Frank McConnell