25 Dec
2001
25 Dec
'01
9:22 p.m.
Hi all,
I am looking for the original Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
documentation... any suggestions? A copy would be fine. A scanned copy
would be even better. Is there an online archive of scanned documentation
somewhere? Thanks.
Josh
4 Dec
4 Dec
5:27 a.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 00:22:39 -0800, Josh Gibbs wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for the original Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
documentation... any suggestions? A copy would be fine. A scanned copy
I have both but not scanned. A problem maybee that I live in germany but if you can't
get the informations
you need please mail me.
I write without cheking my souces because they are at my parents home in the basement and
I didn't habe
the list by hand.
would be even better. Is there an online archive of
scanned documentation
somewhere? Thanks.
I don't know about such side but are intested too.
Josh
Greetings from
Fritz Chwolka - Duisburg
/ collecting old computers just for fun at www.alterechner.de \
6:27 a.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Josh Gibbs wrote:
I am looking for the original Osborne 1 and Osborne
Executive
documentation... any suggestions? A copy would be fine. A scanned copy
would be even better. Is there an online archive of scanned documentation
somewhere? Thanks.
If you don't find it anywhere else, let me know and I might be able to
find a copy.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
12:52 p.m.
At 09:27 AM 12/4/00 -0800, you wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Josh Gibbs wrote:
> I am looking for the original Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
> documentation... any suggestions? A copy would be fine. A scanned copy
> would be even better. Is there an online archive of scanned documentation
> somewhere? Thanks.
I have a lot of Osborne docs but I don't have the time to scan them. I
will loan them out if someone can scan them and put the file on the net AND
they will return the manuals promptly and in good condition. I'm still
trying to get back my NEC MultiSpeed manuals that I loaned to one of the
list members OVER two years ago!
Joe
5 Dec
5 Dec
3:49 p.m.
I would be happy to scan the Osborne docs and make them available on the web
(and return them promptly!). The only question is, what format should they
be in? ASCII seems to be the logical choice, but of course you loose all
the diagrams. PDF would be nice (and make the scanning much easier), but
how portable is PDF? Also, file sizes tend to get big with PDFs.
Suggestions on the format?
Josh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Source for Osborne documentation?
AND
At 09:27 AM 12/4/00 -0800, you wrote:
>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Josh Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I am looking for the original Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
>> documentation... any suggestions? A copy would be fine. A scanned
copy
>> would be even better. Is there an online
archive of scanned
documentation
> somewhere?
Thanks.
I have a lot of Osborne docs but I don't have the time to scan them. I
will loan them out if someone can scan them and put the file on the net they will return the manuals promptly and in good
condition. I'm still
trying to get back my NEC MultiSpeed manuals that I loaned to one of the
list members OVER two years ago!
Joe
5:39 p.m.
At 06:49 PM 12/5/00 -0800, Josh wrote:
I would be happy to scan the Osborne docs and make them
available on the web
(and return them promptly!). The only question is, what format should they
be in? ASCII seems to be the logical choice, but of course you loose all
the diagrams. PDF would be nice (and make the scanning much easier), but
how portable is PDF? Also, file sizes tend to get big with PDFs.
Suggestions on the format?
You're right about ASCII being nice. It's a readable on a lot more
systems than PDF is and the files are smaller too. But as you say, it's
more work and you lose the diagrams. The best solution would be to post
both but that's even more work and requires storage space.
I don't think webspace will be a problem. Jay West has offered free and
unlimited webspace on his server for anyone to post their classic computer
related pages. I intent to move my stuff over there when I have time. I can
put the Osborne docs on my relocated website if necesssary.
I'll put together a list of the Osborne docs that I have. I'll try to do
it tomorrow.
Joe
Josh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Source for Osborne documentation?
AND
At 09:27 AM 12/4/00 -0800, you wrote:
>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Josh Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I am looking for the original Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
>> documentation... any suggestions? A copy would be fine. A scanned
copy
>> would be even better. Is there an
online archive of scanned
documentation
>
somewhere? Thanks.
I have a lot of Osborne docs but I don't have the time to scan them. I
will loan them out if someone can scan them and put the file on the net they will return the manuals promptly and in good
condition. I'm still
trying to get back my NEC MultiSpeed manuals that I loaned to one of the
list members OVER two years ago!
Joe
7:07 p.m.
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Joe wrote:
At 06:49 PM 12/5/00 -0800, Josh wrote:
I would suggest that PDF is the better format. The downloader can send
the PDF file to pdf2text(a)adobe.com or pdf2html(a)adobe.com and have it
back in ascii form in about a minute or two. Rather remarkable service!
- don
I would be happy to scan the Osborne docs and make
them available on the web
(and return them promptly!). The only question is, what format should they
be in? ASCII seems to be the logical choice, but of course you loose all
the diagrams. PDF would be nice (and make the scanning much easier), but
how portable is PDF? Also, file sizes tend to get big with PDFs.
Suggestions on the format?
You're right about ASCII being nice. It's a readable on a lot more
systems than PDF is and the files are smaller too. But as you say, it's
more work and you lose the diagrams. The best solution would be to post
both but that's even more work and requires storage space. I don't think webspace will be a problem. Jay
West has offered free and
unlimited webspace on his server for anyone to post their classic computer
related pages. I intent to move my stuff over there when I have time. I can
put the Osborne docs on my relocated website if necesssary.
I'll put together a list of the Osborne docs that I have. I'll try to do
it tomorrow.
Joe
Josh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Source for Osborne documentation?
AND
At 09:27 AM 12/4/00 -0800, you wrote:
>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Josh Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I am looking for the original Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
>> documentation... any suggestions? A copy would be fine. A scanned
copy
>> would be even better. Is there an
online archive of scanned
documentation
>
somewhere? Thanks.
I have a lot of Osborne docs but I don't have the time to scan them. I
will loan them out if someone can scan them and put the file on the net they will return the manuals promptly and in good
condition. I'm still
trying to get back my NEC MultiSpeed manuals that I loaned to one of the
list members OVER two years ago!
Joe
6 Dec
6 Dec
2:10 a.m.
At 10:07 PM 12/5/00 -0800, Don wrote:
I would suggest that PDF is the better format. The downloader can send
the PDF file to pdf2text(a)adobe.com or pdf2html(a)adobe.com and have it
back in ascii form in about a minute or two. Rather remarkable service!
I wasn't aware of that. Do they charge for that?
Joe
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Joe wrote:
> At 06:49 PM 12/5/00 -0800, Josh wrote:
> >I would be happy to scan the Osborne docs and make them available on
the
web
> >(and return them promptly!). The only
question is, what format should
they
be in? ASCII seems to be the logical choice, but of
course you loose all
the diagrams. PDF would be nice (and make the scanning much easier), but
how portable is PDF? Also, file sizes tend to get big with PDFs.
Suggestions on the format?
You're right about ASCII being nice. It's a readable on a lot more
systems than PDF is and the files are smaller too. But as you say, it's
more work and you lose the diagrams. The best solution would be to post
both but that's even more work and requires storage space.
9:42 a.m.
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Joe wrote:
At 10:07 PM 12/5/00 -0800, Don wrote:
I would suggest that PDF is the better format. The downloader can send
the PDF file to pdf2text(a)adobe.com or pdf2html(a)adobe.com and have it
back in ascii form in about a minute or two. Rather remarkable service!
I wasn't aware of that. Do they charge for that?
Joe
No, all free! There is an alternate site also, but I did not log the
URL.
- don
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Joe wrote:
> At 06:49 PM 12/5/00 -0800, Josh wrote:
> >I would be happy to scan the Osborne docs and make them available on
the
web
> >(and return them promptly!). The only
question is, what format should
they
be in? ASCII seems to be the logical choice, but of
course you loose all
the diagrams. PDF would be nice (and make the scanning much easier), but
how portable is PDF? Also, file sizes tend to get big with PDFs.
Suggestions on the format?
You're right about ASCII being nice. It's a readable on a lot more
systems than PDF is and the files are smaller too. But as you say, it's
more work and you lose the diagrams. The best solution would be to post
both but that's even more work and requires storage space. 
9:10 a.m.
I have tried the pdf2text and pdf2html services for Adobe Acrobat PDF
files. No registration needed, results are in the body of the e-mail. The
only difference between the two is pdf2html lets one jump from page to page
and there is bold and italics. Both are crappy at rendering a table - the
columns don't line up in either fixed or proportional font. Neither of the
services will return images or bitmaps found in the PDF.
I would prefer PDF over HTML since the document layout remains the
same on whatever computer views the PDF. Layout of HTML pages viewed in a
browser changes, depending on make and version of the browser, and on the
resolution of the display. For those without Adobe Acrobat, that text
conversion service would leave them S.O.L. for the images, but doesn't
everybody with internet access have a modern computer they can use to look
at PDFs?
Regards,
Edwin
At 10:07 PM 12/5/2000 -0800, you wrote:
I would suggest that PDF is the better format. The downloader can send
the PDF file to pdf2text(a)adobe.com or pdf2html(a)adobe.com and have it
back in ascii form in about a minute or two. Rather remarkable service!
- don
10:07 a.m.
Edwin P. Groot skrev:
resolution of the display. For those without Adobe
Acrobat, that text
conversion service would leave them S.O.L. for the images, but doesn't
everybody with internet access have a modern computer they can use to look
at PDFs?
No.
(For the record, I do, but there are others who don't. I suppose they simply
are shit out of luck, though)
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10:44 a.m.
Edwin P. Groot skrev:
Actually, there was an Acroread for DOS. I don't know if it's still
good with the newer Acrobat Distillers... but it used to be available.
I've got a copy here -- but haven't installed it.
Adobe may have blown it off their web site now.
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2609640 Apr 10 1996 /dos/c/tmp/acrodos.exe
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resolution of the display. For those without Adobe
Acrobat, that text
conversion service would leave them S.O.L. for the images, but doesn't
everybody with internet access have a modern computer they can use to look
at PDFs?
No.
(For the record, I do, but there are others who don't. I suppose they simply
are shit out of luck, though)
11:07 a.m.
Edwin P. Groot skrev:
>resolution of the display. For those without Adobe Acrobat, that text
>conversion service would leave them S.O.L. for the images, but doesn't
>everybody with internet access have a modern computer they can use to
look
at PDFs?
No.
(For the record, I do, but there are others who don't. I suppose they are shit out of luck, though)
Easily solved... If they can at least download and store the file on some
sort of removable media, they can take it to a Kinko's and have a copy
printed. Of course, I could always put a note on the page offering to print
and mail a copy for a small fee. PDF's print out very nicely.
Josh
10:43 a.m.
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1:11 p.m.
Tony Duell skrev:
> conversion service would leave them S.O.L. for the
images, but doesn't
> everybody with internet access have a modern computer they can use to look
> at PDFs?
No. As an example, I don't.
My PC (which is what I use to access the Internet) has
an MDA card (text
only). I run a text-based linux system.
Don't you have any printer to dump it to? That is the best way to read a PDF
(and the best reason to stay at school).
The machines I have with reasonable graphics (PERQs,
I2S image displays,
etc) don't seem to have pdf viewers ported to them...
LOL, what a shame. The PERQ screen seems to be really well-suited to portrait
pages.
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7 Dec
7 Dec
2:15 a.m.
Tony Duell skrev:
Seems like ghostscript/ghostview should work with PERQ's under Unix for
PDF's.
Bill
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> conversion service would leave them S.O.L.
for the images, but doesn't
> everybody with internet access have a modern computer they can use to look
> at PDFs?
No. As an example, I don't.
My PC (which is what I use to access the Internet)
has an MDA card (text
only). I run a text-based linux system.
Don't you have any printer to dump it to? That is the best way to read a PDF
(and the best reason to stay at school).
The machines I have with reasonable graphics
(PERQs, I2S image displays,
etc) don't seem to have pdf viewers ported to them...
LOL, what a shame. The PERQ screen seems to be really well-suited to portrait
pages.
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6 Dec
6 Dec
5:28 a.m.
Josh Gibbs skrev:
I would be happy to scan the Osborne docs and make them
available on the web
(and return them promptly!). The only question is, what format should they
be in? ASCII seems to be the logical choice, but of course you loose all
the diagrams. PDF would be nice (and make the scanning much easier), but
how portable is PDF? Also, file sizes tend to get big with PDFs.
Suggestions on the format?
PDF is indeed very portable, though some purists might prefer plain
postscript.
My suggestion would be OCRed text, preferably with style markup intact,
combined with scanned diagrammes, all combined as PDF files, which then
wouldn't occupy that much space.
PDFs only consisting of scanned pages out of an old manual aren't all that
fun, though.
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them. They showed and did Promotion play of SEX BOMB BUNNY. And this Game has
tema song of Majingar-Z! Why they know Japanese TV animation?
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