For the Genome files: My first computer was a borrowed Cromemco Z2H system, 16K RAM, two Shugart SA400 drives, GE Terminet 30 console. It was eventually returned to the owner when I moved, circa 1978. Second computer was a borrowed Kaypro II, from the rathole computer store I worked at for six months.. it was a defective warranty return, and I fixed it and then took it home for 'testing' Ran the usual suite of Kaypro-bundled stuff atthe time (1983). From the same place I put together (from various scrap machines) a Morrow MDII system; it remained with me until my Collection got sold ..snif...snifff... The first computer I actually paid real money for was (is) a Mac SE30, that I bought for my music studio, running Performer version 1.9. I paid $1988.50 for the system with the software in 1986 or 7... anyway the machine is still a part of the studio equipment, although it now runs vintage library and MIDI set-up programs for some of my vintage synths... it's on it's second hard drive, and was the first machine I ever had to be infected with a virus - the replacement HD came from CMS, and a disgruntled employee in the QC dept was squirting nVir onto random HDs as he tested them... it would grab the Mac speaker and say 'Don't Panic..." at odd intervals. This list doesn't really get much Spam, even though I hate the shit as much as anyone... I think the cure must be adjusted to fit the severity of the offense... we don't discipline jaywalkers with shotguns, and closing down the list and instituting Bushian draconisms is kind of dumb, IMHO. The ISP I subscribe to is pretty good about such stuff, and personal spam to my account tends to come in small waves - two or four a week for a bit and then none... I just hit the 'DEL' button, and Pine takes care of the rest. There are enough folks here who will spank the spammers, much more effectively than I can (or have the time for), so I'm content to let it be as-is. If the List were overwhelmed on a daily basis with the usual Usenet XXXPorn - Warez - MakeMOneyFast - MyDaughterHasCancerSendCashPlease shit, that would be cause for Action. Right now, I just Delete and move on. Cheerz Sanford Wallace (Surpised no-one mentioned CyberPromo yet..)