5 Oct
1998
5 Oct
'98
12:08 p.m.
I'd also add the apple lisa.
In a message dated 10/5/98 5:52:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com writes:
<< ust for the hell of it, I thought I'd make a list of the Top 10 Holy Grails
of classic microcomputer computer collecting. This is the "Rembrandt in the
Attic" sort of stuff. These are roughly in my opinionated order, but
somewhat randomly ordered:
1. The Altair prototype that was to be the cover photo for Popular
Electronics but was lost in shipment
2. Xerox Alto
3. Mark 8
4. Scelbi 8H
5. Kenbak-1
6. Micral 8008
7. Apple I
8. An unassembled Altair 8800 Kit
9. Busicom Japan Intel 4004-based Calculator
10. IBM 5100
>
5 Oct
5 Oct
12:59 p.m.
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998 SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote:
I'd also add the apple lisa.
There you go. I'd replace the 5100 with the Lisa.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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1:12 p.m.
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Marvin wrote:
Sam Ismail wrote:
That's only because you have one :).
No, its not because of that. An unmodified Lisa (aka Lisa 1) is much more
difficult to obtain than a 5100. The reason being Apple handed out free
upgrade kits to replace the Twiggy drives in the original Lisa with the
single 400K Sony 3.5". Most were upgraded.
I'd
also add the apple lisa.
There you go. I'd replace the 5100 with the Lisa. And as far as a Lisa is concerned, it would be a good
idea to specify
which one.
Of course THE Lisa. The later models are the Lisa 2 and the Lisa 2/10
(aka Mac XL) which are easy to find (the Lisa 2/10 seems to be easier to
locate than a straight Lisa 2...and there IS a difference; several in
fact).
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1:24 p.m.
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Marvin wrote:
I've always wanted to know which machines have only a single instance
represented on this list.
I know we have multiple IBM 5100's here, many Altair 8800's, multiple Lisa
1's, multiple EC-1's, even multiple Apple 1's!
Any PERQ owners besides Tony? (Bill von H has some, but I don't think
he's on the list.)
I'll make a guess at which machines I have which nobody else has:
* GO Lombard (again, Bill von H has one)
* Linus Write-Top (thanks, anonymous list member!)
* SEGA AI Game Machine
* RCA COSMAC MicroMonitor
(Yes, all of my rare machines are obscure, but I'll fix that with a
well-indexed web page someday!)
-- Doug
There you go.
I'd replace the 5100 with the Lisa.
That's only because you have one :). And as far as a Lisa is concerned, it
would be a good idea to specify which one. 
3:11 p.m.
I've always wanted to know which machines have
only a single instance
represented on this list.
I know we have multiple IBM 5100's here, many Altair 8800's, multiple Lisa
1's, multiple EC-1's, even multiple Apple 1's!
I have an Interdata 14 - I know of no other Interdatas at all, except for
a Model 4 at RCS/RI. Lots made - few saved.
I also have a few other machines that are really not rare, but probably
are unique to the list - Data General Nova 4 and Eclipse S/230, SGI IRIS
2500T, CDC Cyber 910 (AKA SGI IRIS 3130). In the definitely odd
department is a very interesting VAX-11/730 with a CDC tag.
And how about a "Holy Grail" list of Big Iron? Mine would be (in no
order):
1. IBM 700 series
2. IBM 650
3. IBM 7000 series
4. IBM S/360 or S/370 series
5. Burroughs B5500
6. Cray-1
7. Thinking Machines CM-1
8. Univac 1
7. Bendix G-15
8. CDC 6000 series
9. DEC PDP-1
10. DEC KA10 or KI10
Sure, some of these were made in the thousands (S/360 Model 40, for
example), but due to the nature of big iron - few remain. If the list were
made up of machines made in single digits, it would be full of supers.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
3:25 p.m.
At 11:11 PM 05-10-98 -0400, William Donzelli wrote:
And how about a "Holy Grail" list of Big
Iron? Mine would be (in no
order):
Well I'd add a Ferranti Atlas for all the obvious reasons.
If we're having a fantasy day, I'd like to own (in no real order)
A Pascal Microengine
An Epson PX-8 (aka Geneva)
IMSAI 8080
PDP-8 (I've already got an -8A but I want the original).
A Next Cube
A fairly short list and (unfortunately) fairly unobtainable in Australia
apart from the Next (I have one or two that I have first dibs on when they
come free at the end of this year).
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3:43 p.m.
New subject: IBM Salvage?
A friend of mine just called and said he saw some older IBM stuff at the
junk yard and was letting me know. He indicated there was an IBM box with a
vertical 8" floppy drive with the box about 12"w x 30"h x 30" or so
deep.
There was also a tape drive which had already been scrounged. Does this
sound like something I should take a look at and get? He used the number
5360 but really wasn't sure what the computer and peripherals were.
4:06 p.m.
New subject: IBM Salvage?
A friend of mine just called and said he saw some
older IBM stuff at the
junk yard and was letting me know. He indicated there was an IBM box with a
vertical 8" floppy drive with the box about 12"w x 30"h x 30" or so
deep.
There was also a tape drive which had already been scrounged. Does this
sound like something I should take a look at and get? He used the number
5360 but really wasn't sure what the computer and peripherals were.
That sounds like the early mid-sized S/36. The later ones had 5 1/4"
drives.
S/36s are falling fast to the Y2K thing, being pushed out of the way by
AS/400s. Not a rare peice, but soon will probably be.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
5:05 p.m.
New subject: IBM Salvage?
A friend of mine just called and said he saw some older
IBM stuff at the
junk yard and was letting me know. He indicated there was an IBM box with a
vertical 8" floppy drive with the box about 12"w x 30"h x 30" or so
deep.
There was also a tape drive which had already been scrounged. Does this
sound like something I should take a look at and get? He used the number
5360 but really wasn't sure what the computer and peripherals were.
Cool! That's an IBM System/36. If you can plug it in and it does something,
it's probably worth grabbing. On the other hand, if it's rusted apart and
when you plug it in it blows up in your face, run away... Just make sure
you have enough room to store it. You'll also need some terminals(I think
5250 type), or at least a PC with some 5250 terminal software and an
interface(you can buy them new at around $300, but an old cheap/free
terminal would probably be better...)
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7 Oct
7 Oct
5:33 p.m.
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, John Foust wrote:
>> I've always wanted to know which machines
have only a single instance
>> represented on this list.
Speaking of which, are there any more Altair 680s on this list? There's
plenty of info on 8800s, but I've found almost nothing on my 680.
ttyl
srw
5 Oct
5 Oct
3:38 p.m.
Doug Yowza wrote:
I've always wanted to know which machines have
only a single instance
represented on this list.
If anyone else on the list has a Mac8 EMIC, I'd be interested to hear about
it. It is a Japanese 8080 S-100 computer with a full front panal ala Altair
or IMSAI. I received it as a gift when I was over in Japan from the owner
of the company.
How many people have a Chameleon? A friend of mine gave it to me probably 5
or so years ago when he was cleaning out his garage.
The only other instance of a Jonas I have heard about here is the one
recently obtained by John Lawson.
I'm sure that others on the list have computers that are not that well
known, including people that own some of the computers at VCF 2.0.
7:39 p.m.
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
I've always wanted to know which machines have
only a single instance
represented on this list.
How about the Expander? It's an S-100 box designed by Lee Felsenstein
that's sort of a cross between a SOL-20 and a TRS-80 model 1, only
Swedish. The only information I've been able to find on this machine is
in Kip Crosby's CHAC interview with Lee Felsenstein in Analytical Engine
3.2. According to the information in the interview, 200 Expanders were
made, but the order was never paid for, so only "a few" made it into the
public.
Is there anyone else out there with an Expander or any Expander-related
information? I plan to open it up and start tracing out the memory map
when I have a few hours of free time. I have tested the power supply, the
EPROMs are backed up, and the machine appears to be functional.
If anyone is interested, I have placed a (bad) picture of the Expander and
some additional information on the Web, at
http://xtal.pharm.nwu.edu/~ware/collection/machines/expander.html
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