27 Aug
2010
27 Aug
'10
11:40 a.m.
has anybody tried localtalk bridge (
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60290 ) in their mac setups?
I was thinking of taking one of my old LC slabs and throwing a $10-$20
ethernet card in, throwing a phonenet dongle on the modem port, either
loading the hard drive with a low os with all but the needed extensions and
files removed, or the same on a floppy, and just using it like a router,
with its only purpose being passing data between the apple ethernet segments
and the apple phonenet segments(which at this time is only my SE as every
other mac has ethernet).
28 Aug
28 Aug
6:07 a.m.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:40 PM, joe lobocki <jlobocki at gmail.com> wrote:
has anybody tried localtalk bridge (
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60290 ) in their mac setups?
I was thinking of taking one of my old LC slabs and throwing a $10-$20
ethernet card in, throwing a phonenet dongle on the modem port, either
loading the hard drive with a low os with all but the needed extensions and
files removed, or the same on a floppy, and just using it like a router,
with its only purpose being passing data between the apple ethernet segments
and the apple phonenet segments(which at this time is only my SE as every
other mac has ethernet).
I use it, running on a PowerMac 9600. The only thing I have on
phonenet is a Mac SE, but with the bridge on the 9600, it's able to
use file shares on the 9600 and file and printer shares on my
(netatalk) Linux fileserver.
I had some quirky issues getting it set up, but generally, once you
get the settings right and reboot with it installed, it's pretty much
invisible and works as advertised. They do talk about support on 7.1
and later, and then warn about it being "[not] completely compatible"
with 8.5. I've personally run it on 8.1, 9.0, and 9.1.
29 Aug
29 Aug
8:35 p.m.
sounds good, what about internet sharing, is there a way to get internet to
the SE from the rest of the network?
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Mike Shields <shieldsm at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:40 PM, joe lobocki
<jlobocki at gmail.com> wrote:
has anybody tried localtalk bridge (
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60290 ) in their mac
setups?
I was thinking of taking one of my old LC slabs
and throwing a $10-$20
ethernet card in, throwing a phonenet dongle on the modem port, either
loading the hard drive with a low os with all but the needed extensions
and
files removed, or the same on a floppy, and just
using it like a router,
with its only purpose being passing data between the apple ethernet
segments
and the apple phonenet segments(which at this
time is only my SE as every
other mac has ethernet).
I use it, running on a PowerMac 9600. The only thing I have on
phonenet is a Mac SE, but with the bridge on the 9600, it's able to
use file shares on the 9600 and file and printer shares on my
(netatalk) Linux fileserver.
I had some quirky issues getting it set up, but generally, once you
get the settings right and reboot with it installed, it's pretty much
invisible and works as advertised. They do talk about support on 7.1
and later, and then warn about it being "[not] completely compatible"
with 8.5. I've personally run it on 8.1, 9.0, and 9.1.
30 Aug
30 Aug
3:17 p.m.
sounds good, what about internet sharing, is there a
way to get internet to
the SE from the rest of the network?
MacIP will work, but not with LocalTalk Bridge. You'll need a hardware
AppleTalk router like a GatorBox. These are getting harder to find,
unfortunately.
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10:33 p.m.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
ISTR the software product Apple Internet Router (AIR) was able to join
Localtalk / Ethernet for routing TCP/IP?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=11262&coll=ap
sounds good,
what about internet sharing, is there a way to get internet to
the SE from the rest of the network?
MacIP will work, but not with LocalTalk Bridge. You'll need a hardware
AppleTalk router like a GatorBox. These are getting harder to find,
unfortunately.
10:42 p.m.
MacIP will
work, but not with LocalTalk Bridge. You'll need a hardware
AppleTalk router like a GatorBox. These are getting harder to find,
unfortunately.
ISTR the software product Apple Internet Router (AIR) was able to join
Localtalk / Ethernet for routing TCP/IP?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=11262&coll=ap
11 p.m.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
I thought that Apple IR was for interconnecting
AppleTalk networks *over*
TCP/IP (i.e., as a router for routing AppleTalk through the Internet as
opposed to the Internet through AppleTalk), not for MacIP specifically,
but I could be wrong about this.
Trying to remember back 20 years so I could be wrong too...I thought
we had something like this working: NCSA Telnet (MacTCP) over
Localtalk via AIR to an Ethernet running into a RS/6000 (5250
emulator) more Ethernet to an AS/400. And somewhere in there Mosaic to
the Internet (such as it was back then). Predating AIR was hardware
options like Webster Multigate which did the same thing as AIR but
supported more Localtalk segments.
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