On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 20:33, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: :-D Thanks! Wow. Well, I strongly agree on bloatware OSes and that, but I'm not so sure about Win9x, especially 98SE, which I regarded as quite bloated for the 9x series myself! I did run 95 from choice for a brief time. I moved from Acorn RISC OS to OS/2 2 on my home computer, in pre-internet times. It did me fine for some years, although I failed to get Warp 3 to install -- my kit at the time was very low-end: a laptop with onboard SCSI, a 486DX/50 (*not* DX2, the rare full-speed 50MHz 486) with 8MB of RAM, a ProHance PowerMouse (also an external keypad) and a Logitech SoundMan parallel-port sound card. Warp 3 didn't work with the SoundMan or the PowerMouse or my SVGA driver (800*600 in 16-bit colour), all of which worked on Warp 2 -- after I had _bought_ the drivers. Then I got a slightly newer machine from work -- a cast-off 486DX2/66 Gateway desktop. The hardware was now a bit too new for OS/2 2 and yet not new enough for Warp 3, so I fell between two stools. I tried a beta copy of Windows Chicago and was amazed at how well it worked, even Just Worked?. Parallel-port kit, SCSI cards, whatever -- if there wasn't a Win95 driver, a DOS driver would usually do. It had proper internal sound card, proper SVGA graphics, an ATAPI CD-ROM, and Win95 just worked with all of it. No editing CONFIG.SYS, no additional drivers, no modifying the boot disk so you could install the OS already aware of your new kit. It was a dream of simplicity and functionality compared to OS/2, I'm sorry to say. So I switched. And my flatmate had a PC too, so we networked them over a parallel cable so we could play Doom against each other. Home Ethernet was still fanciful for me in 1995. A bit later, my home cast-off PC got upgraded to a Pentium/90 and I switched to NT 3.51, and later NT 4, and I never used 9x (or OS/2) as my main OS on my desktop again. I did run it on my laptops until about 2001, though. I didn't like 98's built-in IE, IE-based desktop and things like that, and customised it to remove that stuff with 98Lite for years. But 98 supported lots of IP addresses, which became useful. 95 supported a maximum of 4, and with a modem, PCMCIA Ethernet, Firewire and a direct-cable-connection link all configured, that was it. No new IP connections for you. There was a certain simplicity and understandability about Win9x, yes, but NT was far more reliable, even back in the NT 3 era. DOS and 16-bit apps worked. Drivers, no. So I moved to NT as soon as my kit could run it, and never looked back. Until XP, which was a bit bloated for me, so around 2002 I started exploring full-time Linux and Mac OS X as viable alternatives. I'd been dabbling with Linux for years but mainly as a server or firewall, not as a desktop. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ?R (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053