Ok, I have Virtual Valerie, but now I have changed computers and your email address is on my other computer... so I'm letting you know via the list, sorry. I don't see Virtual Valerie 2 in my list of software, but I thought I had it as well... alas if it isn't in my database, then I can't say for sure where it would be (I do have a ton of software that hasn't made it into my database yet, so I can't rule it out... but I can say that it isn't something that will surface soon). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>