Zane wrote.... night. It's here now anyways.... All of our services, especially mail - are redundant. If the primary server fails, there's a backup server that automagically takes over the load. Our primary mail server locked up last night about midnight. The backup mail server took over so mail was still working. However, since I was in a rush to get the list up I hadn't yet taken the time to make the classiccmp majordomo service redundant as well (it needs to be done on a service by service basis, not on a machine by machine basis). Sometime towards the end of this coming week I'll make the classiccmp majordomo setup redundant so it doesn't happen again. Regards, Jay West